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« on: September 23, 2020, 10:41:12 AM »

Very much so. I've heard three times just in the past week - "What is Biden doing? I've heard nothing from him recently" or something similar.

Expecting to win because people hate Trump more than you is exactly the same mistake Clinton made four years ago, and it looks like Joe is starting to get complacent.
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 10:50:43 AM »

A central pillar to Biden's whole presidential campaign appears to be letting Trump do his own thing and pray that he (hopefully) self-destruct in the process

Never should've been a "central pillar."

Biden has no real campaign slogan, no transformative policy. Just a return to normalcy and "I'm not Trump." It may be enough. But it will not lead to anything beyond a modest win.
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2020, 12:07:31 PM »

Why does he keep doing this?
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2020, 08:47:35 AM »

Republicans in this thread are just mad that Biden's gameplan is working and is about to put him in the White House.



Did the right completely lose their ability to meme this election?
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2020, 01:34:17 PM »

It's pretty obvious Biden (not the most inspiring candidate to begin with) is running a substandard campaign. No, I'm not one of those who thinks he should be out more often, doing rallies and so on, because, unlike the other guy, he's acting responsibly in times of pandemic and ought to be commended for this, rather than criticized.

The problem is he's still not doing enough even within the limited framework. I'm also concerned about his message, or lack of thereof, because sometimes you can't resist the impression Biden is running not on a policy message (OK, we here know he has policies, but it's about selling it), but "I'm not an orange man" (which is actually pretty good argument, though still not enough for many).

In the end it appears Biden is the luckiest nominee in the long, long time, having a pleasure of running in a time of crisis, against an irresponsible clown, but I'm a bit concerned about his performance as President after he wins. 

How do we quantify whether someone is running a good campaign or not?

If we're going by polling and expected election outcomes, then Biden is running one of the best presidential campaigns in recent history.

If we're going by almost any other metric, then it's pretty subjective.

That's a fair point.

But it's not really unprecedented for a candidate to run a substandard campaign, and still win convinceably due to bad state of affairs/the opponent being so unpopular and autodestructive. But if the situation was "normal" (no COVID and thus the political fallout), Biden's inadequacies as a candidate would pose a problem.

The way things stand now, I don't see Biden losing, but I'm still convinced it'll be closer than the polling shows, as I believe Trump's support is still understated. Right now the margin is too big for this to decide the outcome, but in a different climate, it would've been very concerning.

In the end, whether you think his campaign by itself is effective or not so much, it's pretty much indisputable how all the things are playing out in his favor, and I'm talking about the factors out of his control.

Biden had been leading Trump by a substantial margin in head-to-head polling before the pandemic.

I think a lot of people conflate "he's not running his campaign in a way that directly appeals to me" with "he's not running a good campaign".

I've heard many people say that Biden isn't running a good campaign, but I haven't heard anybody articulate what exactly he is doing that's so bad.

There's no evidence that his gaffes are having an influence outside extremely online or reactionary circles, and he's had record fundraising.

So I'm not really sure what more he could be doing.

Once he became the presumptive nominee, Biden is getting unusually favorable treatment from most of the mainstream media this season (which I don't really take an issue with, given what's at stake in this election).

Fundraising is not neccesairly the best measure of enthusiasm or lack of thereof.

Also, while Biden was leading substantially even before the pandemic, it's pretty obvious that using still hypotetical matchups from a year before an actual election, given how fluid politics are, is pretty funny. The narrative that Democrats had it in the bag anyway before the tragedy of COVID occured is very nice to entertain, but flawed. I hoped we'd learn a little critical thinking from 2016. The fact Trump destroyed himself doesn't mean the factors that helped him rise back then were just a fluke, nor that Democrats still have a lot of rethinking to do.

It's not even that the msm is giving Biden favorable coverage (Most networks would rather have Trump in office for the ratings) it's that the president is constantly doing something to hog the camera keeping the focus off of Biden's issues which are certainly there, though of course less immediately problematic.
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