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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2020, 09:39:46 PM »

Four.

Maybe do non-reporting as some other color such as black or gray.
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« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2020, 11:58:11 AM »

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Louisiana: Karen Carter (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

South Dakota: Kristi Noem(R), Larry Rhoden(R), Jason Ravnsborg(R)
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2020, 06:39:59 PM »

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

South Dakota: Kristi Noem(R), Larry Rhoden(R), Jason Ravnsborg(R)

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate). Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

Michigan: Ken Blackwell (R). Two candidates with fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!"

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Pennsylvania.

I did not recognize any electors for Kentucky, Maine, or Massachusetts. Anybody see any notables?
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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2020, 01:09:13 AM »

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

South Dakota: Kristi Noem(R), Larry Rhoden(R), Jason Ravnsborg(R)

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate). Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

Michigan: Ken Blackwell (R). Two candidates with fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R)

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!"

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Pennsylvania.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

I did not recognize any electors for Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts or Washington. Anybody see any notables?
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2020, 01:11:00 AM »

NY Board of Elections needs to be nuked.
NYCBOE or NYSBOE?
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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2020, 08:47:58 PM »

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

South Dakota: Kristi Noem(R), Larry Rhoden(R), Jason Ravnsborg(R)

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate). Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

Michigan: Ken Blackwell (R). Two candidates with fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R)

Idaho: Rod Beck(R), Raul Labrador(R)

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!"

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's.

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida.

I did not recognize any electors for Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, or Washington. Anybody see any notables?
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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2020, 08:58:40 PM »

The Michigan electors had their addresses posted on the certificate. Isn't that...a problem?

They're all Democrats chosen by the Michigan Democratic party. Failure to vote for the Democratic candidates will result in their automatic resignation and cancellation of their vote per Michigan election law. 

I think the worry is more that they'll face personal threats from the Trump cult. We are talking about a state where Trump's supporters planned on kidnapping or murdering the governor. What happens to their votes if they're unable to show up and vote? And even if they do, violent retaliation afterward instigated by Mr. Trump seems worryingly likely.
The Socialist Workers Party in Washington threatened to sue if the addresses of their elector candidates have been revealed. They were revealed. I do not know if they have sued.

The certificates of ascertainment for Kentucky, Michigan, Nebraska, and Washington list the addresses of the elector candidates (Michigan only lists those of the winning candidates - in 2016 it was the Republicans, in 2020 it was the Democrats).

The certificates of Idaho and Maine, list towns or cities.

Those for AL, AZ, FL, GA, LA, MA, MN, MT, ND, OH, PA, SD, TN. WI, and WY list names only.

The address of candidates are likely public record even if they are not on the official certificates.

You may or may not recall the campaign in 2016 by Democratic, Clinton, and/or foreign agents to dox Republican electors in an attempt to get them to betray Trump. They were receiving 1000s of mails and emails.
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2020, 09:26:39 PM »

The Michigan electors had their addresses posted on the certificate. Isn't that...a problem?

Seems like a problem in terms of them being harassed by crazy Trump cult terrorists. 

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop ...

Quote from: Michael Banerian, Michigan elector[/quote
“Somebody threatened to put a bullet in the back of my mouth,” Banerian, 22, told The Post on Wednesday.

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2020, 07:57:35 PM »

The Michigan electors had their addresses posted on the certificate. Isn't that...a problem?

Seems like a problem in terms of them being harassed by crazy Trump cult terrorists. 

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop ...

Quote from: Michael Banerian, Michigan elector
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“Somebody threatened to put a bullet in the back of my mouth,” Banerian, 22, told The Post on Wednesday.

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It wasn't right then, and it isn't right now either. The difference is Hillary wasn't encouraging this sort of behavior.
Who was?
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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2020, 08:58:35 PM »

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

South Dakota: Kristi Noem(R), Larry Rhoden(R), Jason Ravnsborg(R)

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate). Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

Michigan: Ken Blackwell (R). Two candidates with fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R)

Idaho: Rod Beck(R), Raul Labrador(R)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey(D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy(D).

New York: Bill Clinton(D), Hillary Clinton(D), Andrew Cuomo(D), Kathy Hochul(D), Thomas DiNapoli(D), Letitia James(D), Jay Jacobs(D), Carl Heastie(D), Christine Quinn(D).

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!"

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's.

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, K. Harris would vote against K. Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

I did not recognize any electors for Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, or District of Columbia. Anybody see any notables?
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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2020, 09:00:15 PM »

31/51 states have already submitted their certificates to the National Archives (+10 since yesterday).

They had not updated any since the 4th (perhaps USPS delays?)
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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2020, 01:40:01 AM »

The Michigan electors had their addresses posted on the certificate. Isn't that...a problem?

Seems like a problem in terms of them being harassed by crazy Trump cult terrorists. 

Electors are being harassed, threatened in bid to stop ...

Quote from: Michael Banerian, Michigan elector
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“Somebody threatened to put a bullet in the back of my mouth,” Banerian, 22, told The Post on Wednesday.

Spoiler alert! Click Show to show the content.




wow you dug up an article.  Now back to the reality of the mass gathering of unhinged lunatics which is the modern GOP.
Remember the meeting of the three electors in Montana? Linda McCulloch the Secretary of State at the time decided she was chairwoman, and invited the members of the public to make speeches before the electors began their deliberation. A couple of old ladies spoke about Orange Man Bad and Russian Collusion. Then the Secretary of State said the electors should explain why they were voting for Trump.

Remember Larry Lessig, who had been a candidate for nomination by the Democrats, who offered to provide legal counsel to any faithless electors?
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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2020, 12:23:41 AM »

I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who's as manifestly capable of being measured and reasonable when he wants to be as jimrtex, but being intimidated by armed demonstrators showing up at your house after dark is categorically not the same as being spoken against by old ladies at a public meeting or having Lawrence Lessig offer to litigate against you.
The meeting of the electors is for them.

Linda McCulloch is both an idiot and a political hack. She thinks because she was once a school teacher that she has special powers and intuition.

If she had followed a precedent where the meeting of the electors in Montana was a meeting where there was a public speaking opportunity it would be one thing (If she had announced this before the meeting there would have been 100s of Montanans show up).

You don't imaging that one could get 100's of Delaware or Vermont citizens to show up to ask about Joe Biden's involvement in Ukraine, or Hunter Biden and Joe Biden (aka Pop), or Biden's role at the January 5, 2017 meeting about Michael Flynn.

It wasn't like the little old ladies had just shown up to observe the meeting of the three electors. "I didn't know I would be able to speak, it has never been done for the last 12 presidential elections, so I didn't have a speech prepared.

Montana's 3 electors vote for Trump; 2 were alternates

Quote from: Helena Air
Susan Reneau, who came over from Missoula, said she was proud to stand in support of Trump. She started to say that President Barack Obama had been an “abomination to our military and everything economic in our entire country” before McCulloch reminded her to keep her comments positive.

Lee Malcheski, of Helena, asked the three to hold off on voting until an investigation into Russian interference in the election was made public.
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2020, 03:21:15 AM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red. I had previously listed Ken Blackwell, but had credited him to Michigan rather than Ohio (sorry Badger). I also remembered a name in Minnesota.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman, who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R).

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Huh??



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn''t either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.
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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2020, 07:37:10 AM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate),

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman, who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Huh??

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Huh??



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.
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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2020, 12:22:08 AM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: not received.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate),

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Not received.

Kansas: Not received.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: Not received.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman, who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Not received.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Not received.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New Mexico: Not received.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Huh??

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Huh??



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.
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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2020, 10:22:34 PM »


Aren't officeholders not supposed to be electors, or did that apply specifically to federal office?
Under the US Constitution it is federal offices that are disqualifying.

In 2016, leftist extremists trying to overturn the election of Trump were looking at attacking any elector they could. They were going after staff in congressional offices, who were being advised just to be sure to resign so a replacement could be named.

In Texas, there are fairly restrictive bars on dual office holding. The ban on not being on the ballot twice derives from that - you can't run for two offices that you can't hold simultaneously. There were two electors who were advised that if they took an oath of office as an elector, that they automatically resigned their other (full time) office. They were also replaced.

I doubt such severe vetting went on in other elections.

In other states, there are no such bans. Look at New York and South Dakota for example.
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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2020, 04:56:04 PM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: not received.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Not received.

Kansas: Not received.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: Not received.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Not received.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D).

New Mexico: Not received.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Huh??

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Huh??



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.
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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2020, 09:28:26 PM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: Polly Baca (D) plaintiff in faithless elector case. The named plaintiff, Michael Baca was actually replace in 2016. Polly Baca joined the case, claiming that the State's action coerced her to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Not received.

Kansas: Not received.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: David Bossie (R-candidate), President and Chairman of the Board, Citizens United.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Corey Lewandowski (R-candidate), former Trump campaign manager.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D), wife of Governor Phil Murrphy

New Mexico: Not received.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Who?

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Jesse Jane Duff (R-candidate) USMC Gunnery Sargeant (ret.) and TV commentator.



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.
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« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2020, 12:09:12 PM »

Certificates of Vote have been received from AL, DC, VT, and WV.

Trump 14 (70%)
Biden 6 (30%)
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« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2020, 03:49:37 PM »

Certificates of Vote:

Alabama: Trump/Pence: 9. At Arizona State Capitol, Montgomery, Year 2020, Count of votes were handwritten. It appears that each elector used a personal pen.

Arizona: Biden/Harris: 11. At Phoenix, Year 2020. Separate certificates were signed for President and Vice President, resulting in each elector signing 12 certificates (6 copies of each must be wet-signed). Steve Gallardo, one of the electors, signed the Vice Presidential certificate in black ink, perhaps invalidating it. All the others signed in blue ink, likely with an official pen.

Arkansas: Trump/Pence: 6. Old Supreme Court Chamber, Arkansas State Capitol, Little Rock, year 2020. Separate certificates for President and Vice-President were signed. The electors were styled The Honorable in recognition of their office as electors.

Two absent electors were replaced. Ed Bethune (who is almost 85) was replaced by George Ritter who has written a book explaining why the 14th Amendment was not ratified.

J.D.McGehee, the district director for AR-4 was replaced by Joseph Wood, Washington County Judge (head of government). McGehee may have been challenged because he is a federal employee ("Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States"). Both McGehee and Wood are black.
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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2020, 01:36:36 PM »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: Polly Baca (D) plaintiff in faithless elector case. The named plaintiff, Michael Baca was actually replace in 2016. Polly Baca joined the case, claiming that the State's action coerced her to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Tom Vilsack (D-candidate)

Kansas: Not received.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: David Bossie (R-candidate), President and Chairman of the Board, Citizens United.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Corey Lewandowski (R-candidate), former Trump campaign manager.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D), wife of Governor Phil Murphy

New Mexico: Debbie Maestas (R-candidate), State Party Chair and daughter of Allen Weh, 2014 senatorial candidate.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Who?

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Jesse Jane Duff (R-candidate) USMC Gunnery Sargeant (ret.) and TV commentator.



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.

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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2020, 01:37:57 PM »

NM's certificate of the election results has been received by the National Archives !

It took 23 days (!) to be shipped from Santa Fe to Washington DC ... LOL.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-new-mexico.pdf

I bet Maggie Toulouse Oliver was looking at herself in the mirror and forgot to send it.
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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2020, 02:12:20 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2020, 02:42:16 AM by jimrtex »

I have alphabetized the states. Newly received states are in red.

Perusing the Certificates of Ascertainment that have been received by the National Archives

https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020#certificates

I noted the following electors or elector candidates of note.

Alabama: Earl Hilliard, Jr. (D-candidate), he is Earl Hilliard's son.

Alaska: John Binkley (R), finished 2nd in the 2006 gubernatorial primary behind Sarah Palin, but ahead of incumbent Frank Murkowski. Also a riverboat captain in Fairbanks on the Tanana River.

Arizona: Kelli Ward (R-candidate), Barry Hess (L-candidate)

Arkansas: Ed Bethune(R)

California: Pete McCloskey (D), Janine Bera(D), Shirley Weber(D)

Colorado: Polly Baca (D) plaintiff in faithless elector case. The named plaintiff, Michael Baca was actually replace in 2016. Polly Baca joined the case, claiming that the State's action coerced her to vote for Hillary Clinton.

Connecticut: not received.

Delaware: John Daniello (D), Gambino family soldier err founder Bark Eater Outfitters err 20-year-old Division III hockey play uh no, long time state party chair.

Florida: Gwen Graham (D-candidate), Bill Nelson (D-candidate).

Georgia: Stacey Abrams (D)

Hawaii: John "Raghu" Giuffre (American Shopping Party-candidate), party founder and promoter of raghu-nomics. Finished 6th in congressional race to replace Tulsi Gabbard.

Idaho: Rod Beck (R), Raul Labrador (R)

Illinois: Lori Lightfoot (D), William Redpath (L-candidate)

Indiana: James Buck (R), state senator.

Iowa: Tom Vilsack (D-candidate)

Kansas: Emily Wellman (R), daughter of Dick Wellman, cowboy.

Kentucky: Colmon Elridge (D-candidate) State Party chair.

Louisiana: Karen Carter Peterson (D-candidate), Woody Jenkins(R)

Maine: Peter LaVerdiere (R), age 79, and Jay Philbrick(D), age 18, are Maine's two congressional district electors.

Maryland: David Bossie (R-candidate), President and Chairman of the Board, Citizens United.

Massachusetts: Nicole LaChapelle (D), mayor of Easthampton.

Michigan: Terry Lynn Land (R-candidate)

Minnesota: Muhammad Abdurrabman (D), who was an attempted faithless elector in 2016.

Mississippi: Terry Reeves, father of Governor Tate Reeves.

Missouri: Not received.

Montana: Thelma Baker (R), Googling, I found some very interesting stories.

Nebraska: Laura Ebke (L-candidate)

Nevada: Judith Whitmer (D), Clark County party official - notable in dispute over removal of pro-Palestine planks from county party platform. Yvanna Cancela (D), state senator and co-speaker DNC keynote infomercial

New Hampshire: Corey Lewandowski (R-candidate), former Trump campaign manager.

New Jersey: Tammy Murphy (D), wife of Governor Phil Murphy

New Mexico: Debbie Maestas (R-candidate), State Party Chair and daughter of Allen Weh, 2014 senatorial candidate.

New York: Bill Clinton (D), Hillary Clinton (D), Andrew Cuomo (D), Kathy Hochul (D), Thomas DiNapoli (D), Letitia James (D), Jay Jacobs (D), Carl Heastie (D), Christine Quinn (D), Rhonda Weingarten (D)

North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D-candidate)

North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D-candidate)

Ohio: Ken Blackwell (R)

Oklahoma: Anybody?

Oregon: Carla Lynn Hanson (D), state party chair.

Pennsylvania: Lou Barletta (R-candidate)

Rhode Island: Joe Paolino (D), former mayor of Providence (1984-1991), also lost gubernatorial primary to Bruce Sundlun, congressional primary to Robert Weygand, mayoral primary to David Cicilline.

South Carolina: Who?

South Dakota: Kristi Noem (R), Larry Rhoden (R), Jason Ravnsborg (R)

Tennessee: Tina Benkiser (R), former Texas state party chair.

Texas: Gene Seaman(R), Ken Mercer(R), Briscoe Cain(R), Nick Lampson(D-candidate), Terri Hodge(D-candidate), Katija Gruene(G-candidate)

Utah: Not received.

Vermont: Kesha Ram (D), state senator-elect, and daughter of a Jewish mother and Hindu father who ran an Irish pub in Santa Monica. Her aunt is a Tory life peer.

Virginia: Richard Art Viguerie (R-candidate): Direct mail politics.

Washington: Sophia Danenberg (D), works for Boeing and whose favorite app is Excel, and incidentally is first Black woman to summit Mount Everest.

West Virginia: James Justice (R)

Wisconsin: Tony Evers (D)

Wyoming: Milward Simpson (D-candidate), grandson of Milward Lee Simpson; nephew of Alan Kooi Simpson.

District of Columbia: Jesse Jane Duff (R-candidate) USMC Gunnery Sargeant (ret.) and TV commentator.



Other highlights:

Certificates of Ascertainment are signed by the Governor of each State, thus Noem (R-SD) and Evers (D-WI) signed their own certificates. Neither added a hand-written comment: "<---- That's ME !!!!!!" Andrew Cuomo didn't either but the New York certificate did have his name bolded. The New York certificate is the only one where the signature line does not identify the signer. James Justice is identified as the governor on the West Virginia certificate.

Most prosaic certificate: Wyoming; Most grandiose: Massachusetts.

Nebraska gives the vote totals for each elector candidate, and then states that four Republicans and one Democrat electors have been notified by certified mail but does not actually list the individuals. I hope they sent the mail to the right electors.

Four pairs of Socialist Worker electors in Washington share an address, but not a last name.

Brock Pierce electors in Minnesota included Jeffrey Pierce, Kathleen Pierce, Mark Pierce,  Barbara Pierce, Deborah Pierce (imagine if he had been elected, we would have had two Adam's, two Johnson's, two Roosevelt's, two Harrison's, two Bush's, and two Pierce's)

Kasey Wells electors in Minnesota included three electors with the same name of Illegible. They don't include addresses, but I image they were: "No Such Address". Don Blankenship electors in Minnesota included a pair of Bruskis.

All 8 electors for Shawn Howard in Kentucky were also electors for Shawn Howard in Minnesota and Florida. The two other electors for Howard in Minnesota were also electors for Shawn Howard in Florida. Five of these were designated in Indiana. Since Indiana noted the town of elector candidates, it specifically notes that these electors were from New Jersey, New Jersey, Florida, Connecticut, and New York.

The governor of Nevada did not sign that state's certificate of ascertainment, but made a mark. The SOS countersigned it making it legal.

Kamei Harris was a Trump-Pence elector in New Jersey. She is a black woman. If she voted, Kam... Harris would vote against Kam... Harris.

Vermont had Grumpy Old Patriots, Boiling Frog, Bull Moose, and Bread and Roses candidates.

In Ohio two candidates had fewer popular votes than electors (18 electors, 16 and 3 votes).

In Florida, Four write-in candidates had fewer popular votes than they had electors (29), with 9, 8, 2, and 1 popular votes. This may be the epitome of faithless elector.

The Alaska certificate was executed in Anchorage, rather than Juneau, and signed by both the Governor and Lieutenant Governor (Alaska does not have a Secretary of State, and the Lieutenant Governor serves in that role).

Delaware does not list elector names for also-runs but simply "Elector 1 for Jo Jorgensen", etc. On the other hand, it gives neither the name of the party nor the presidential candidate for the other electors. We can only surmise that "John Daniello  295,933" might vote for Joe Biden.

There are two certificates of ascertainment for the District of Columbia. The first styled: Amended Certificate of Ascertainment is dated 3 December 2014. The second styled Certificate of Ascertainment is dated 14 December 2014. I don't see any difference between the two.
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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2020, 02:15:37 AM »

KS certificate of ascertainment (=election results) finally arrived in Washington.

https://www.archives.gov/files/electoral-college/2020/ascertainment-kansas.pdf

It was actually signed only 3 days ago, long after the safe harbour deadline ...
Vote suppression by Governor Kelly?
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