An African-American (R) Candidate is Bennet's First Opponent

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

He's not a economic moderate.  He championed [not just supported] a ballot initiative to get gays civil unions and also isn't sure if the government should outlaw abortion.

I guess those are more moderate views but that wouldn't make him an overall moderate. I would probably strongly support a ballot initiative giving gays civil unions. I might not dedicated most of my time/energy to it but I'd certainly strongly defend it.

Can he count on Club for Growth support?  If so, I'll praise them highly for it.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

He's not a economic moderate.  He championed [not just supported] a ballot initiative to get gays civil unions and also isn't sure if the government should outlaw abortion.

I guess those are more moderate views but that wouldn't make him an overall moderate. I would probably strongly support a ballot initiative giving gays civil unions. I might not dedicated most of my time/energy to it but I'd certainly strongly defend it.

Can he count on Club for Growth support?  If so, I'll praise them highly for it.

Do you add anything else to the forum, Don? Honestly, it's gotten old now. We get the point.

When the Club for Growth stops dismantling the Republican Party limb-by-limb, I will stop pointing out their destructive actions.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

He's not a economic moderate.  He championed [not just supported] a ballot initiative to get gays civil unions and also isn't sure if the government should outlaw abortion.

I guess those are more moderate views but that wouldn't make him an overall moderate. I would probably strongly support a ballot initiative giving gays civil unions. I might not dedicated most of my time/energy to it but I'd certainly strongly defend it.

Can he count on Club for Growth support?  If so, I'll praise them highly for it.

Do you add anything else to the forum, Don? Honestly, it's gotten old now. We get the point.

When the Club for Growth stops dismantling the Republican Party limb-by-limb, I will stop pointing out their destructive actions.

Don, go cry someone else a river and stop being such a damn hypocrite.

CLUB 4 GROWTH = TEH GREAT SATAN

Specter, Chafee, etc. = Eh, well, er....um....

Your pals are consistently exposed as RINOs that directly stick it to the party and when you are pressed for a response, well, you suddenly disappear. Not a peep out of you when Arlen rumored switching parties.

You're a one trick pony, my friend, and the show has gotten old.

Its amazing how you you expect loyalty out of those who you beat to a pulp.  

Obviously, any hint of party-switching by a moderate Republican does damage to those of us who are loyal to the idea of a mainstream, sane, sensible, responsible, conservative party in our country.  A number of moderates have been offered the temptation to bolt for seemingly greener pastures where they can exercise their principles and conscience - only to find that the left-wing vultures are just as ferocious and evil as the right-wing ones.  Arlen Specter has, so far, resisted this temptation, and may sacrifice his career of public service to the citizens of Pennsylvania for it.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I hate the fact that being unwilling to take a stand on an issue is seen as a sign of moderatism / pragmatism.

How so?  In admitting that issues aren't black and white or in the Tedisco sense?

In the Tedisco sense.  I would admit that abortion isn't black and white.  What I am disputing here is that because this fellow refuses to take a stand on the issue, it makes him a moderate.  The Tedisco comparison is a good one, really.

Most issues do not have only two sides.  There are many angles, many approaches, and many perspectives.  The world is neither black, nor white... moderates recognize that the world is mostly blue with some green spots and see the world in its true and dazzling color.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Specter has stuck it to this party for decades and you refuse to acknowledge it. It's sad. When you're backed into a corner about "Kerry and Specter for Working Families," you run away. You addressed it once, saying you actually didn't mind it.

So let me get this straight... I "ran away" from a question that I answered comprehensively.  How many times am I required to answer a question before it meets your high standards for satisfaction?

As Lunar suggested, take your comments about the Club elsewhere. Stop hijacking every thread to do your pouting. Make your own thread, post your complaints and be done with it.

I posted something about the Club as there were posts in this thread about whether or not Mr. Frazier was a centrist or not.  There is no doubt that your friend Pat's old organization is extremely effective and can derail any principled and responsible individual who seeks a Republican nomination.  Obviously if Mr. Frazier were to show any independence from the Economic libertarian/Social fascist crowd, he would be immediately deemed to be a RINO, etc.