With the CUP gone...now what?

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

We Centrists have traditionally had strong parties to identify with so it does seem a bit strange at the moment.  I am sure sanity will return in due time.

The reason why I left the UAC is that it had wavered away from centrist values.  The reason why I left the CUP is that it had wavered away from centrist values.  Can we stop wavering away from centrist values already??

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Can't you people think for yourselves?

Maybe.  What do you think I should think?

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Just stay independent if you don't like all those shaky parties. No messy endorsement votes, no platform to follow if you run for office, and no partisanship.

People can always walk to get where they are going, but to get there faster they need a vehicle.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

Just stay independent if you don't like all those shaky parties. No messy endorsement votes, no platform to follow if you run for office, and no partisanship.

People can always walk to get where they are going, but to get there faster they need a vehicle.

Hmm, I guess I must have run pretty fast then.

Your opposition's vehicle broke down because its owners did not believe in government regulation, so the parts were shoddy and unsafe   *trying to save the metaphor*

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I salute JF and True for trying to start a new centrist party.  I am interested in anything that John Ford wants to do.  But I'm unsure whether this is the right style of vehicle that we need to get the job done.  Ultra-libertarians are rapidly tearing down our institutions of government and civil society.  Who is fighting these intrusions?   What Party is standing up for common values?  With the possible exception of the CD's, the answer is no one.  That must change.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I salute JF and True for trying to start a new centrist party.  I am interested in anything that John Ford wants to do.  But I'm unsure whether this is the right style of vehicle that we need to get the job done.  Ultra-libertarians are rapidly tearing down our institutions of government and civil society.  Who is fighting these intrusions?   What Party is standing up for common values?  With the possible exception of the CD's, the answer is no one.  That must change.

I actually agree; we have spendocrats on one side and manic privatisers on the other. Why not start a (american spelling on purpose) Center Party? or a Moderate Party. Keep it on track and stop it veering either too far to the extremes?

One problem.  Where are the spendocrats?  I wish we had some spendocrats out there to balance out the manic privatisers

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

There was talk of the formation of a new party, the fact is that after a few election cycles a centrist party will begin to shift either to the left (or more commonly in Atlas) the right and so eventually collapse and be reformed in a new guise… it’s the way of things and I think there is little you can do to stop it really.

So a new Party then?   

Oh thank God.. Ben.. its you... is it really you... please tell me that the anti-government zealots haven't yet reached you... are you still pure at heart? 

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I'm up for joining a new middle ground party but after last time I dont believe I have the expertese needed to get one up and running. Then again perhaps it is better that Centrists are independents; it may help challenge the system come election time.

It isn't just about having a Centrist Party, its about defining what Centrism is and what our values are.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I'm up for joining a new middle ground party but after last time I dont believe I have the expertese needed to get one up and running. Then again perhaps it is better that Centrists are independents; it may help challenge the system come election time.

It isn't just about having a Centrist Party, its about defining what Centrism is and what our values are.

I think there should be a desire not to indulge in ideology for ideologies sake. Some will be slightly to the left, others to the right. I think we need to redefine the role of the state, as you say not as something tyrannical that has to be mowed down or seen as a 'shibboleth' or as unreformable.

By the way, what is the Progressive Conservative platform out of interest?

Silly, you should know that with me the logo and slogan come long before any sort of platform or policy

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

In the PC logo, it looks like the letters are having sex.

Don't you guys see the penis in the P!?

Do you guys think PC secretly means penis and clitoris?

Damn, you got me.  Now everyone will know the truth.