San Francisco fires director of elections for being a white man (UPDATE: no longer happening)

[DrScholl]

You can't sue over a limited term contract not being renewed, because there is never a guarantee that fixed term contracts must be renewed. And you all want to jump to race, but diversity could also mean gender.

[DrScholl]

You can't sue over a limited term contract not being renewed, because there is never a guarantee that fixed term contracts must be renewed.

Wrong. Failure to renew a contract is an "adverse employment action" under Title VII. Can't fire a guy because he's black, can't "decline to renew a fixed-term contract" because he's black either.

And you all want to jump to race, but diversity could also mean gender.

It is also illegal to fire someone on the basis of his or her gender. Really simple stuff!

Again, he wasn't fired, his contract just wasn't renewed. In order to fired he would have had to been released from the contract early.

Stop being woke. I'm only trying to hold you to the standards conservatives have created.

[DrScholl]

You can't sue over a limited term contract not being renewed, because there is never a guarantee that fixed term contracts must be renewed.

Wrong. Failure to renew a contract is an "adverse employment action" under Title VII. Can't fire a guy because he's black, can't "decline to renew a fixed-term contract" because he's black either.

And you all want to jump to race, but diversity could also mean gender.

It is also illegal to fire someone on the basis of his or her gender. Really simple stuff!

Again, he wasn't fired, his contract just wasn't renewed. In order to fired he would have had to been released from the contract early.

Stop being woke. I'm only trying to hold you to the standards conservatives have created.

Can read what he said about title 7 or is that too woke for you

I'm just saying that he wasn't fired and that there is huge hypocrisy here. Racism doesn't exist to you unless it involves a white man.

And I would like to add that the commission voted to hire a search firm to find a new election director. They didn't just hire some random non-white person off the street.

[DrScholl]

I'm just saying that he wasn't fired and that there is huge hypocrisy here. Racism doesn't exist to you unless it involves a white man.

To what hypocrisy do you refer?

And I would like to add that the commission voted to hire a search firm to find a new election director. They didn't just hire some random non-white person off the street.

Nobody said they did that, so this is not a relevant comment.

The hypocrisy is that you pretend that racism doesn't exist when it involves minorities, but then flip the script and are pro-civil rights when it fits your narrative. The new elections director might end up being white for all you know, but diversity means many things. They could hire a white person who has experience working in more diverse municipalities, but your mind just goes to the city hiring some unqualified affirmative action hire.

[DrScholl]

I'm just saying that he wasn't fired and that there is huge hypocrisy here. Racism doesn't exist to you unless it involves a white man.

To what hypocrisy do you refer?

And I would like to add that the commission voted to hire a search firm to find a new election director. They didn't just hire some random non-white person off the street.

Nobody said they did that, so this is not a relevant comment.

The hypocrisy is that you pretend that racism doesn't exist when it involves minorities, but then flip the script and are pro-civil rights when it fits your narrative. The new elections director might end up being white for all you know, but diversity means many things. They could hire a white person who has experience working in more diverse municipalities, but your mind just goes to the city hiring some unqualified affirmative action hire.

This is troubling information. If possible, could you point out the people in this thread who pretend that racism doesn’t exist when it involves minorities? And could you perhaps direct us to evidence of this? Surely you must have some; after all, no one would make such a broad claim about others’ moral character unless it was supported by some clear facts.

Just look at any of the threads complaining about wokeness and CRT and you will see some of the same people or similar types.

[DrScholl]

Just look at any of the threads complaining about wokeness and CRT and you will see some of the same people or similar types.

Sorry, I may not have been clear. You heavily implied that people in this thread are racists who ignore racism when it is directed towards nonwhite people. This is a pretty serious accusation; racism is morally abhorrent and being racist is a violation of forum policy. Do you have any specific evidence that the individuals complaining about this discrimination in this thread also ignore racism in other situations? "Similar types" of people don't count, of course, because we are talking about individuals here and not groups.

Again, anyone on here who has complained about wokeness or CRT is part of the mob that pretends racism is a problem.

DrScholl stay on topic challenge (impossible)

I didn't change the subject, I just pointed out the subject line is incorrect.

[DrScholl]

Trying to make a semantics argument over "well technically he wasn't fired" is the exact same thing Trump apologists do when they try to claim he never praised Nazis in Charlottesville or "didn't really mean" certain things he said.

Except there is a difference between being fired and not having your contract renewed. It's not semantics, it's actually two different things. No matter what you think of the decision your take is factually inaccurate and it's stupid even bring up Trump.

[DrScholl]

Trying to make a semantics argument over "well technically he wasn't fired" is the exact same thing Trump apologists do when they try to claim he never praised Nazis in Charlottesville or "didn't really mean" certain things he said.

Except there is a difference between being fired and not having your contract renewed. It's not semantics, it's actually two different things. No matter what you think of the decision your take is factually inaccurate and it's stupid even bring up Trump.

Well your original statement was that you “can't sue” over not having a contract renewed, which is obviously incorrect.

The commission opted to hire a search firm to find a new director which legally they can do.

[DrScholl]

Trying to make a semantics argument over "well technically he wasn't fired" is the exact same thing Trump apologists do when they try to claim he never praised Nazis in Charlottesville or "didn't really mean" certain things he said.

Except there is a difference between being fired and not having your contract renewed.

Per Title VII of the Civil Rights Act there is not. Both are illegal if done for reasons of gender or race.

But the problem is another white person could be hired and that would ruin your whole case. Like I said diversity has many meanings and more diverse leadership could mean hiring a white candidate based on having experience or education dealing with a broader group of people. Get it now?