2020 Presidential Election Results & Exit Polls commentary thread

[DrScholl]

I really would like you to explain what this nonsensical term of cultural Marxism means. Marxism is all about economics and technically could go with a very socially conservative government. Parts of the old Eastern Bloc were far from socially liberal and there was plenty of bigoted policy to go around.

Actually Marxism is not all about economics, probably you need to read "The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State" and some on the Historical materialism at example "The German Ideology". 

As far as how it has been implemented by various regimes over time it has been more about controlling the means of a production and such more than liberal social policy. There aren't many Marxist regimes that stand out as examples of "woke".

[DrScholl]

Obama would have been dragged from the White House by the Tea Party if he had pulled that.

[DrScholl]

All the people who said it was ridiculous to suggest that Trump wouldn't concede defeat look really naive right now

[DrScholl]

The gas tax repeal help Cox somewhat even though it ultimately failed. Without that on the ballot Republicans had very little reason to turnout.

[DrScholl]

Those messages are sickening. Republicans have become akin to a cult and a street gang. Obsessive, unreasonable demands for loyalty and threats of violence for not complying with said demands.

[DrScholl]

Michigan has completed it's final canvass and is ready to be certified. It's over.

[DrScholl]

Donald Trump is a fascist and the people who are supporting his attempts to undermine this election are traitors to the United States.

As a right leaning person, I totally agree. I saw an article from The Atlantic before the election which warned of Trump pulling something like this, but I brushed it off as left wing doomerism.  I never pictured anything this insane happening.  Why is the Republican party allowing this??

The Republican Party is allowing it because they want to maintain Trump's base after he is gone.  A lot of his voters have no use for politicians and see him as a personality to be worshiped.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/drewharwell/status/1329439591892475905
Remind me again why Hillary was wrong for saying half of Trump supporters are awful?

Fuzzy, where you at? How are you going to spin this one?

"But BLM!!!"

He was probably one of the ones who left the messages.

Shame on you for saying this. Fuzzy Bear is many things, and I know people on here disagree strongly with much of what he says-I certainly do. But to imply that he would threaten violence against another person, or engage in any kind of criminal act, is doing him a great disservice.

It's highly likely that he didn't leave those messages, but Fuzzy Bear is hardly that virtuous. Any time there is any sort of violence from right-wingers he pivots to talking about Black Lives Matter which says to be that he's not interested in condemning violence when his side commits it.

[DrScholl]

So we've reached the psycho stalker send a million threatening messages stage of the game. Who needs Lifetime movies anymore?

[DrScholl]

I’m sure losing Georgia is shocking but I think it is FAR from gone for Republicans just because of 2020. Democrats are still underdogs in the runoffs and some of those suburbs may snap right back.

Several of these suburbs swung Democratic in the statewide races in 2018 and the congressional races in GA-6 and GA-7 pretty much went like suburban races did in more Democratic friendly states. I don't think those suburbs are going to snap back.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330148622898515969

Part of me is loving how salty he is about losing Georgia (and Georgia, specifically).  

This.

Why are Atlas liberals so upset about Trump becoming unhinged about the election results?  He has no chance in overturning the results.  We're literally watching him televise how his life is falling apart.  Just enjoy the show everyone.

Yes, let's all have fun watching somebody tell people with violent tendencies to "take back the country" and undermine the democratic processes.

Lets all sit back and watch with entertainment as Republicans show they are 100% willing to overthrow the election if an avenue were to ever open up.

It's this mindset that allowed people like Hitler to come to power, just watching on the sidelines and laughing, ignoring the danger that was in front of them.

Indeed, if Trump continues his antics, the idea that the election was illegitimate could be gaining traction among the Republican segment of the population. Everyone on this forum thinks that's ridiculous and that Trump is clearly a flailing sore loser, but then again this forum couldn't imagine that 47% in a turbocharged turnout election would vote for Trump.

If/when Trump launches his coup, in whatever form, it would be quite dangerous if he had 30-47% of the population behind him.

Trump's base has been brainwashed by him for years now.  They don't think covid is real.  They were going to view the election as fraudulent no matter what happened other than Trump winning.  There is nothing you can do to change their minds.  People here getting all worked up aren't going to change that fact.  Nor have the people complaining even suggested they are doing anything at all other than complaining here.

And your base is brainwashed too to believe that the blm and the destruction of our cities is acceptable. It really freaking isn't. We both know elements of the left did in fact committ violence this summer and I'll admit that elements of the right probably joined in. I am pretty far to the left on a great number of issues and voted for sanders in 2016 and 2020 but violence is never the answer. I believe Trump clearly losed to Biden but if we're going to heal this nation we have to condemn all violence be it left or right. We both must look in the mirror.

Also I believe Covid to be real. It is really sad I'll even admit that Trump burnt his own house down with his own liberterian small government inaction having to do with this virus.

There's never going to be any healing if we both can't admit that our sides have at least some wrongs on our hands. I know for a fact the left isn't peaceful and the actions taken by many leftist groups are completely unacceptable. I watched it on live streams and t.v for months.

I think you need to be reminded that RIGHT-WING groups plotted to kidnap two Governors (of different parties, so yay for bipartisanship) and now we know that part of the plot in Michigan was to conduct live executions at the Capitol. Say what you want about Black Lives Matter, but they never did any of that nor are they threatening  to overturn election results.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1330327620148465664

And there's another 3 like that.

He needs to prove it or he needs shut up and accept it.  Prove it with real evidence in front of a court of law or you're blowing smoke out of your butt mr.Trump. I don't like the left but you're using people and that isn't ok when it comes to our elections.

There is no evidence and you know it.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/JMilesColeman/status/1330353938290401282

The Democratic transition into becoming the party of the wealthy is truly astonishing and depressing.

That's not true, but what is true is that Republican Party is becoming the party of conspiracy theorists and people willing to overturn fair election results if they lose. That is disturbing.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1330640804004638721

[DrScholl]

Governor Whitmer does have the authority to remove and replace members of the canvassing board, so if worst came to worst she could remedy the situation. The canvassing board has no choice but to certify the election.

[DrScholl]

https://twitter.com/GeoffBurgan/status/1330914789929971716?s=19

For the most part local government likes to do their job and move on. That goes for very conservative areas as well. Besides, not many counties would want to deal with huge legal fees and penalties that might come along with delaying the result.