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DrScholl
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« on: March 31, 2022, 08:58:42 PM »

I'm not sure where there is legal standing for "bipartisan support" in drawing the maps and it's clear that political bias is never a valid reason to strike down maps because it has never held up. You need state law to strike down maps.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2022, 05:53:18 PM »

Splitting a community in a way that both halves still get representation—the candidate of their choice wins and is elected—is not the same as splitting a community to make each half weak enough they can be outvoted by the other party in both districts (DeSantis).

I think some people genuinely forget that the VRA was written to help African-Americans get representation and not in order to provide Republicans a tool to minimize the number of representatives African-American voters can help elect. The latter was an unintended effect, not the sole and best use of the law.

And what about the candidate of the suburbs? I don't think what Cervas did was racist, I am just calling it out as the fact he did the exact same thing Ron DeSantis did. A clean gerrymander based along a natural river boundary to favor his political party.

FYI DeSantis did not split the black community in Duval County, what he did was split the white moderates on the East Bank from the Black community. Still a gerrymander but just important to note.

Also still waiting for the defense of the Albany split.

He diluted the Black voted by putting Black areas in with White areas that are not remotely communities of interests and split Duval County into two districts when one district can fit completely within the county.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2022, 06:35:01 PM »

Splitting a community in a way that both halves still get representation—the candidate of their choice wins and is elected—is not the same as splitting a community to make each half weak enough they can be outvoted by the other party in both districts (DeSantis).

I think some people genuinely forget that the VRA was written to help African-Americans get representation and not in order to provide Republicans a tool to minimize the number of representatives African-American voters can help elect. The latter was an unintended effect, not the sole and best use of the law.

And what about the candidate of the suburbs? I don't think what Cervas did was racist, I am just calling it out as the fact he did the exact same thing Ron DeSantis did. A clean gerrymander based along a natural river boundary to favor his political party.

FYI DeSantis did not split the black community in Duval County, what he did was split the white moderates on the East Bank from the Black community. Still a gerrymander but just important to note.

Also still waiting for the defense of the Albany split.

He diluted the Black voted by putting Black areas in with White areas that are not remotely communities of interests and split Duval County into two districts when one district can fit completely within the county.

Wow and Rochester is smaller than a district while Albany County is exactly a district. Sure there are sometimes arguments to split exact districts such as Cobb/DeKalb GA for example. but the manner in which it was done was simply to unpack it.

You can't draw a single district that is solely within either of those counties. In Duval County, Florida you can do that and that would be preferable under the fair district amendment.
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