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Question: What additional sunctions must be imposed on Russia to retaliate for Russian interference in 2016 election?
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Putin's accomplices and friends must be banned from visiting the US
 
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Putin himself must be banned from visiting the USA, including meetings of UN GA
 
#3
All Russian citizens must be banned from visiting the USA
 
#4
All Russians must be banned from communicating at American forums including this one
 
#5
Some categories of Russians may be allowed to enter the US
 
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DrScholl
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« on: May 05, 2019, 03:37:31 PM »

Banning all Russians from entering the US? That's ridiculous and really racist

rofl, Russian is not a race.

If the Democrats start pushing for stuff like that, they're clearly heading for defeat in 2020. Seriously, the Democratic Party hasn't been this messed up since 1972 imo.

Another humdinger and right in a row, you are on a roll. This is not a policy that the Democratic Party is calling for.

There was no collusion and there is no reason to impose stricter sanctions on Russia. We should work towards normalizing relations between the West and Russia.

There should be no normalized relations until they back off their repeated interference. There is no disputing that they interfered, there is a mountain of evidence in the report.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 04:21:48 PM »

Are people not aware that it is illegal for any foreign entity to spend money in a US election? That alone is worth sanctioned Russia. And before anyone says "oh, but they didn't write Trump any checks" I will point that you don't have to actually write checks directly to a campaign in order to fall under FEC rules. If you buy a package of muffins for a campaign event and are not a US citizen you are in violation of the law. Russia purchased social media advertising, organized rallies and numerous other things involving the election. That is dark money that wasn't reported to the FEC and even if it was it was illegal spending. Russians were actually indicted for their part in interference. That doesn't even scratch the surface on the hacking.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 04:26:51 PM »

There was no collusion and there is no reason to impose stricter sanctions on Russia. We should work towards normalizing relations between the West and Russia.

This, absolutely this

Russia tried to do the same thing France's elections but it didn't work. Russia is an interfering country, period.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 06:13:26 PM »

America interferes in politics everywhere, in much more blatant ways than just buying some Facebook ads, and they're open about it. The same goes for my own country (to an of course much more limited extent). I guess most people here are fine with that, but then don't tell me you're not being a hypocrite when you complain about Russia doing the same.

Russia tried to do the same thing France's elections but it didn't work. Russia is an interfering country, period.
Le Pen would have made a better president.

So what you are saying is that Russia was justified in trying to interfere in that election? Now you have just exposed exactly what a lot of people think, which is that it is perfectly okay for Russia to manipulate anything they want to just as long as it benefits people you like. My point wasn't even about who the candidate were.

The fact that you think that racist and anti-Semite would have made a good President says volumes about you. I don't care how she tried to portray herself as a designing version of her father, she still is a terrible person and France knew it which is why she lost by 30%.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 06:21:38 PM »

America interferes in politics everywhere, in much more blatant ways than just buying some Facebook ads, and they're open about it. The same goes for my own country (to an of course much more limited extent). I guess most people here are fine with that, but then don't tell me you're not being a hypocrite when you complain about Russia doing the same.

Russia tried to do the same thing France's elections but it didn't work. Russia is an interfering country, period.
Le Pen would have made a better president.

So what you are saying is that Russia was justified in trying to interfere in that election? Now you have just exposed exactly what a lot of people think, which is that it is perfectly okay for Russia to manipulate anything they want to just as long as it benefits people you like. My point wasn't even about who the candidate were.

Yeah right, do you think we actually believe that? Had there been Russian meddling (which didn't happen), the left would have been happy as long as it benefited Clinton.

Read the Mueller Report. There are details of the purchases of social media ads, the organization of pro-Trump rallies. They even hired a self-defense instructor to teach black people how to fight the police under the guise of a Black Lives Matter group (which was a very strange move, but it happened). You can't just have your own alternative facts.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2019, 06:25:04 PM »


Which pervious threads?

And yes of course it does

I checked you on the fact that Russian is not a race and you didn't correct yourself. It's okay though, because I read you for it.

Second, social justice is about equality based on any number of social factor. It has nothing to do with globalism or foreign policy or any of the other nonsense you were talking about.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2019, 06:30:20 PM »


Which pervious threads?

And yes of course it does

I checked you on the fact that Russian is not a race and you didn't correct yourself. It's okay though, because I read you for it.

Second, social justice is about equality based on any number of social factor. It has nothing to do with globalism or foreign policy or any of the other nonsense you were talking about.

Xenophobic then. You got what I meant.

Maybe not for the base, but most certainly for the corporate elites and the UMC supporting it.

No, I didn't get it. Some people confuse nationality with race because they just don't realize the difference.
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