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DrScholl
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« on: March 10, 2016, 03:26:05 PM »

You can't dismiss every poll because of what happened in Michigan. The Cook County suburbs are much wealthier than the Detroit suburbs and they aren't going to vote for someone who wants to raise taxes through the roof. It's an entirely different ballgame in Illinois.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 03:29:37 PM »

I can tell you that the Sanders folks are working it here in IL. Yesterday they called my son who took a Pub ballot in the 2014 primary, which was his first. Hillary is relying on endorsements and the Cook/Chicago machine.

Good! Cheesy

Hope it works out for 'em.

From what I've heard they are claiming fraud in advance of the primary because Clinton was endorsed by the Cook County Democratic Party and included Clinton's name on the their slate, but not Sanders.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 03:43:32 PM »

You can't dismiss every poll because of what happened in Michigan. The Cook County suburbs are much wealthier than the Detroit suburbs and they aren't going to vote for someone who wants to raise taxes through the roof. It's an entirely different ballgame in Illinois.

I don't think Sanders' tax plan matters right now. I really don't.
In MI Clinton and Sanders split 50/50 the $100k-200k income bracket. In fact, all income brackets were basically 50/50.

I get it's a different state, but for her to lead by 30-40 points in IL after losing MI by 1.5%? Come on. I still hold this is a 10-point race. I also believe IL is open primary.

Do you have a link to this poll that says it's a 10 point race?

Considering that the President is from Illinois and Clinton was in his cabinet, it's not hard to believe that Clinton is leading by this much. Plus, Cook County is a huge percentage of the statewide vote and it's heavily minority.
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DrScholl
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 04:45:43 PM »

You can't dismiss every poll because of what happened in Michigan. The Cook County suburbs are much wealthier than the Detroit suburbs and they aren't going to vote for someone who wants to raise taxes through the roof. It's an entirely different ballgame in Illinois.

I don't think Sanders' tax plan matters right now. I really don't.
In MI Clinton and Sanders split 50/50 the $100k-200k income bracket. In fact, all income brackets were basically 50/50.

I get it's a different state, but for her to lead by 30-40 points in IL after losing MI by 1.5%? Come on. I still hold this is a 10-point race. I also believe IL is open primary.

Do you have a link to this poll that says it's a 10 point race?

Considering that the President is from Illinois and Clinton was in his cabinet, it's not hard to believe that Clinton is leading by this much. Plus, Cook County is a huge percentage of the statewide vote and it's heavily minority.

I have no proof this is a 10-point race. I'm just pulling numbers out my ass. But it doesn't seem right that Clinton wins IL by a bigger margin than some southern states. I don't think this is a 30-40 point race. As a Clinton supporter I hope I'm wrong.

Let them believe it's a 30 point race.. It's going to be better for Sanders when it turns out other way.

It's a big mistake to assume every state is going to turn out like Michigan.
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DrScholl
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E: -5.55, S: -3.30

« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 04:49:28 PM »

You can't dismiss every poll because of what happened in Michigan. The Cook County suburbs are much wealthier than the Detroit suburbs and they aren't going to vote for someone who wants to raise taxes through the roof. It's an entirely different ballgame in Illinois.

I don't think Sanders' tax plan matters right now. I really don't.
In MI Clinton and Sanders split 50/50 the $100k-200k income bracket. In fact, all income brackets were basically 50/50.

I get it's a different state, but for her to lead by 30-40 points in IL after losing MI by 1.5%? Come on. I still hold this is a 10-point race. I also believe IL is open primary.

Do you have a link to this poll that says it's a 10 point race?

Considering that the President is from Illinois and Clinton was in his cabinet, it's not hard to believe that Clinton is leading by this much. Plus, Cook County is a huge percentage of the statewide vote and it's heavily minority.

I have no proof this is a 10-point race. I'm just pulling numbers out my ass. But it doesn't seem right that Clinton wins IL by a bigger margin than some southern states. I don't think this is a 30-40 point race. As a Clinton supporter I hope I'm wrong.

It really depends on how big the margin in Cook County is. This electorate is blacker than Michigan and with Chicago having issues with gun violence, Clinton's position on gun control is much more favorable.
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