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« Reply #1000 on: November 06, 2013, 05:13:47 PM »

Tories and Dippers hold an issues monopoly. Grits not seen as best to handle any major issue. No surprise.
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« Reply #1001 on: November 06, 2013, 10:48:30 PM »

So um, yeah, JT has a new event out that makes Hey Girl look tame. I'm now fully sympathetic to Hash's "biebertrudeau" moniker.
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« Reply #1002 on: November 07, 2013, 09:34:58 AM »

#askjustin is getting deservedly panned by women across the political spectrum as sexist, patronizing BS.


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« Reply #1003 on: November 07, 2013, 10:25:26 AM »

In other news, Mulcair is moving ahead with his plan to recreate the NPDQ. Now that should be fun, given the history of branch planting here. Who'd lead it?

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« Reply #1004 on: November 07, 2013, 11:15:15 AM »

Question is why Dad shifted to begin with, but at least the choice will be clear.
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« Reply #1005 on: November 07, 2013, 12:37:36 PM »

QC charter's been tabled.
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« Reply #1006 on: November 07, 2013, 12:40:47 PM »

More Ford. Says he was extremely inebriated at the time.
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« Reply #1007 on: November 07, 2013, 04:15:09 PM »


With or without expletives? CBC initially aired it with. Tongue
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« Reply #1008 on: November 07, 2013, 05:25:27 PM »

Ford's mother and sister are saying he needs help, but not in dire straits yet.
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« Reply #1009 on: November 07, 2013, 08:02:09 PM »

Too stubborn, still has a fighting chance next year, no mechanism to do so.
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« Reply #1010 on: November 07, 2013, 08:12:29 PM »

Technically the province can use Section 451.1 of the Municipal Act: "If the Lieutenant Governor in Council considers that it is necessary or desirable in the provincial interest to do so, the Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations imposing limits and conditions on the powers of a municipality under sections 9, 10 and 11 or Part IV or providing that a municipality cannot exercise the powers in prescribed circumstances." Thing is, a Liberal-NDP attack on Ford would be the ultimate red flag to Ford Nation, which is why Wynne's staying out.
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« Reply #1011 on: November 07, 2013, 08:14:53 PM »

On another subject, what do resident Dippers think of the reborn NPDQ?
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« Reply #1012 on: November 07, 2013, 08:49:59 PM »

Who would ultimately lead such a thing?
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« Reply #1013 on: November 07, 2013, 09:09:49 PM »

If it damages all 3 parties though... I'd be curious what'd happen in provincial voting intentions if she rolled that particular dice.

Speaking of ON voting intentions, Ipsos pegs 34/3131. Among "very likely" voters 38/31/27.. Wynne's approval is 37%, leading preferred premier w/31 to Horwath's 29 and Hudak's 28. Any idea what the seat projection would look like? Tories are collapsed in the GTA w/23% to the OLP's 38% and NDP's 35%.
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« Reply #1014 on: November 07, 2013, 09:17:13 PM »

Ducasse would make sense, if he wants to do it. Recognizable candidates, fundraising, logistics, the usual. I guess a small-target strategy to start, like QS at its outset? PQ/QS/left PLQ are the targeted voters, after all.
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« Reply #1015 on: November 07, 2013, 09:25:15 PM »

He'd be a welcome presence in the leaders' debates IMO, and in provincial political debate generally. As it is David is the only remotely relatable leader. Will temporarily try and park my usual views on multiparty systems and minority govt, just to see how this turns out. Tongue
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« Reply #1016 on: November 07, 2013, 09:42:07 PM »

QS got only 8% there last year. You would need to collapse one of the major party votes, which certainly won't be easy.
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« Reply #1017 on: November 08, 2013, 08:22:43 AM »

Leslie and Chisholm say no to the provincial leadership, Stoffer uncertain but I'd guess he doesn't run either.

NDP reiterates their Keystone opposition.
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« Reply #1018 on: November 08, 2013, 10:05:52 AM »

Trudeau goes the full Tom Friedman on China. Then says that the questions at the fundraiser "weren't as fluffy as some were expecting." ROFLMAO.

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« Reply #1019 on: November 08, 2013, 06:08:20 PM »

Cullen and Simms formally decline a provincial run.
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« Reply #1020 on: November 10, 2013, 06:41:12 PM »

It is. Chinese and Tibetan community groups are demanding apologies and it's been roiling through the media since Thursday. Then he's calling journalists "breathtakingly cynical" on Twitter for daring to treat Palinesque foreign policy gaffes as, well, Palinesque foreign policy gaffes. Usually pissy self-righteousness we saw with the separatist thing last year. Then Bob Fife said on QP this morning that Trudeau's been complaining to journalists that they're being too critical. ("Chutzpah" is putting it extremely mildly) That's without discussing the family history on certain authoritarian regimes (PRC, Cuba, Vichy, Iran).
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« Reply #1021 on: November 10, 2013, 07:14:05 PM »

It isn't like he lacks media rationalizers and/or defenders, and not just from the usual quarters. Detracts from things of longer-term relevance: for instance, he announced over the weekend that he supports abolition of mandatory minimums and a carbon tax. (Seems to forget '08, but he'll be reminded) None of which made a splash outside the Sun, at least not yet. Of course, this is all kid stuff compared to a GE, especially the leaders' debates.
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« Reply #1022 on: November 10, 2013, 08:46:24 PM »

It is. Chinese and Tibetan community groups are demanding apologies and it's been roiling through the media since Thursday.

What impact might this have in the vicinity of Markham?

Edit: And Richmond, BC, for that matter?

Won't help the Grit battle to regain votes in those communities, that's for sure.
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« Reply #1023 on: November 10, 2013, 10:01:00 PM »

Same here.

In other news, Donnelly and Julian are still considering the provincial leadership. Donnelly sounds more open than Julian. Any Dippers think one or both would run?
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« Reply #1024 on: November 10, 2013, 10:15:11 PM »

Of course, this is all kid stuff compared to a GE, especially the leaders' debates.

Yes, that's certainly a point at which he could collapse rather messily. But caution! Excessive aggression would certainly backfire in that situation.

True. I'd think they'd hope he visibly stumbles and then pounce, as has happened in past debates, rather than aggressively trying to force an opportunity as often occurs in the House. Debate format isn't that friendly to freelancing, plus most of the time they prefer talking to the camera rather than each other. Especially Harper.
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