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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« on: May 20, 2006, 09:22:34 AM »

Strongly disagree. I do not see why people should be free from "want." If an individual wants or needs something, he should work for it--he should not expect the rest of society to provide it for him.

Furthermore, Roosevelt makes it seem as if these four freedoms are the most important of all. But that is not the case; there are some rights that are far more essential, such as the right to own property.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2006, 09:50:49 AM »

I agree that people should have to work, but I also find it morally objectionable, not to mention overall bad for the economy, for people who work to live in poverty.
Could you explain why it is morally objectionable for an individual who works to remain in poverty? In a free market, every individual receives the fair market value of his labor. If it so happens that someone's labor is insufficiently valuable to meet his needs, then society is not to blame. The worker must merely change his occupation.

Furthermore: In absolutist terms, it may be "bad for the economy" if some people who work remain in poverty. However, the economy would be even worse if the government attempted to solve the issue of poverty through taxation.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2006, 10:47:42 AM »

To answer the question of why I feel it is a moral issue: I see it as a social contract; those who contribute to the productivity and well-being of society should not have to fear for where their next meal is going to come from.
If an individual contributes to the well-being of another (by working for him, by selling him a product, etc.), then he will be compensated in a free market. This compensation will normally be equivalent to the value of the service provided, and not more. If the amount received is insufficient to feed oneself, then the blame does not rest with society. The appropriate solution here is to perform some other job, not to steal money from another person.

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If a poor family gets to spend an extra hundred dollars, then the implication is that a taxpayer somewhere gets to spend a hundred dollars less. The purchases made by the recipient of funding are seen, because the act is performed, while the purchases that would have been made by the taxpayer are not seen, because he is prevented from performing it. An increase in demand in one area of the economy is counterbalanced by an unseen decrease in demand in a different area.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2006, 05:44:42 AM »

I thought you didn't believe in right and wrong?
I don't believe in objective right and wrong. I was merely stating my subjective opinion.
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Emsworth
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 02:12:09 PM »

What gives you the right to apply these subjective morals to society?
A more important question is, why shouldn't I appply my subjective morals to society? Nearly everyone else believes that society should adhere to his own subjective morals.

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I am not saying that they should. I am merely stating my opinion. Whether someone else cares or does not care is his business, not mine.
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