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  Do you support restrictions on when alcohol can be sold? (search mode)
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Question: as in days of the week/time fo day, etc.
#1
Yes, alcohol should not be sold on Sunday mornings
 
#2
Yes, I support some other restriction different from Option 1
 
#3
No
 
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« on: October 17, 2005, 07:46:38 PM »

There is no such thing as the principle separation of church and state.  Go read your Federalist Papers and/or buy an education.
The Federalist was published before the passage of the first Amendment.

It is often asserted that the Framers "did not intend" to separate church and state, or that the First Amendment "was not understood" to separate church and state. Of course, Thomas Jefferson (the individual who came up with the phrase "wall of separation") was not a Framer of the First Amendment, and his views are of little significance. But James Madison, the author of the First Amendment, did speak often about church-state separation.

In various documents, Madison used strong phrases such as "total separation of the church from the State" and "perfect separation between the ecclesiastical and civil matters." In one memorandum, he remarked, "Strongly guarded ... is the separation between religion and Gov't in the Constitution of the United States." Thus, when the author of the First Amendment himself understood it to create a "perfect separation" or a "total separation," it would be inaccurate to dismiss the principle of church-state separation entirely.

North Carolina has Option 1, which is a clear violation of separation of church and state.
A prohibition on the sale of alcohol on any particular day does not constitute a law respecting the establishment of religion. It is just as constitutional as public schools giving students Sundays off (for example). The North Carolina law is perfectly permissible.

As to my views, I do not believe that any government is entitled to limit the natural liberty of the people by placing restrictions on the time of day at which any item whatsoever can be sold.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2005, 05:36:33 AM »

If they pass a law that says we must pray every day or be arrested, is it not unconstitutional because it doesn't say why according to your reasoning?
Prayer is a religious activity, and may not be regulated by the government. Buying alcohol on a Sunday is not a religious activity.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2005, 05:47:28 AM »

But not buying alcohol on Sunday is.
It is not inherently religious. Just because someone does not buy alcohol on a Sunday, it does not follow that he does so for religious reasons.

Prayer, on the other hand, is a purely religious activity.
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Emsworth
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2005, 06:20:41 PM »

not working on sunday is a religious activity, there is no other feesable reason to choose that day, and no constitutional reason to choose any day.
As I said, the Constitution does not require states to have reasons for their laws. Just because a law is irrational, arbitrary, or stupid, it does not follow that it is unconstitutional.
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