Elizabeth Warren 2020 campaign megathread

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

She would be the best president of the bunch so she has my support. You can learn to be a better campaigner, you can't just learn how to be a good statesperson and policymaker.

If she can get the right staff and practice the right things, she can become the Jed Bartlet of this election.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I'm a liberal so I don't hate the left wing. You make no sense.

Someone doesn't know what "liberal" means.

Yeah and that someone is you.

By any standard definition, liberals are slightly left of centre at best and right-wing at worst, unless you work for Fox News and use "liberalism" as a catch all for any party to the right of Republicans.

Any thoroughly left-wing movement, be it democratic or revolutionary socialism, anarchism, left libertarianism, etc., is opposed to liberalism in all its forms, and liberals don't usually think highly of them either

What are you even talking about?

NF, I think the disconnect here is that Atlas generally uses liberal in the more international sense (radical centrism), rather than the American sense.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Warren continues to be the best person to be President of the bunch.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I'm voting warren now. Bernie lost me when he said he wouldn't abolish the filibuster. How else does he expect to get single payer/free college etc.?

I can't comprehend why anyone would treat opinions on the finer details of Senate procedure as a litmus test for a presidential candidate. That's not how our government works.

In general, we don't seem to be treating policy knowledge as a litmus test at all for a presidential candidate, which really shouldn't be how government works.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I realize that no one cares about this, but has anyone told Warren that she's running for an executive position rather than a legislative one?

It's really odd to watch a sitting Senator center her campaign on what she's better positioned to do in her current office than she would be as a president.

Technically speaking, if Presidents only focused on what they're supposed to be doing as President, all we'd have would be primarily foreign policy debates and how things like the DoJ or the park service are administrated.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Warren’s backing eliminating private insurance was incredibly stupid. Gives GOP an opening, a Medicare option pretty does the same thing without the baggage.

She had a good night, but that statement really highlights how poor her political instincts are.

“Poor political instincts” but has successfully positioned herself to be Biden’s main adversary down the stretch? K. She said what she meant and that goes farther than a rehearsed answer pulled from polling and focus groups. Trump won promising to round up illegals, building a fictional wall, and banning Muslims. Elizabeth Warren will be alright.

Her answer did show poor political instincts.

One reason she is doing well is because she has gotten moderates in the party to warm up to her. Her stance on healthcare is the kind of thing that would scare them away.

Exactly.  How does she broaden her base?  Rather, she'll continue to fight with Bernie et al for the progressive piece of the pie.

I think that's the point. My guess would be that she wants this to be a clear ideological dogfight with the Biden down the stretch. I think that's a fight she can win.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Honestly, her use of "Latinx" in the first debate was much more ridiculous than this.

How and why does that bother you? LOL.

Because no words in Spanish end in two consonants, and the word is grammatical nonsense in Spanish.

This is true. Projecting sexism onto -o/-a endings is the whitest thing ever and wildly misunderstands the Spanish language. Even if you really wanted to get rid of language genders, one could always use the already existent -e ending. -x is linguistically absurd, blatantly disregards Hispanic worldviews, and has a distinctly Anglo orgin.

Fair, but I know plenty of Hispanic people who refer to themselves as Latinx

Yes, this is a generational American thing, not necessarily something to do with the language of origin. Lots of other young folks of various ethnicities employ the same scheme.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

It's quite interesting how a majority of Warren's supporters don't actually come from the Sanders 2016 vote but rather the Hillary 2016 vote, which goes a bit against her image.

There were plenty of progressive Hillary 2016 voters. She built up many years of goodwill and Bernie was just unlikable and showed animus to the party he was running to be the leader of.

I've never understood this line of reasoning. The Republicans (as well as most modern political parties) figured out a while back that ideological coherence is a better to galvanize folks to win elections for you. A party's first job should be to determine the best candidates for the job, in spite of whatever the "party" feels.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Who better to propose it?   

Warren pushes tribal plan amid new Trump attacks on Native American claims

Sen. Elizabeth Warren has rolled out many detailed plans on the presidential campaign trail, but on Friday she released her longest, most comprehensive one. The topic: Native Americans and tribal rights.

The proposal, released ahead of a presidential forum on the topic in Iowa on Monday, comes as Warren has risen in the polls and as President Donald Trump has stepped up his attacks on the Massachusetts senator and her past claims of Native American heritage.

“The story of America’s mistreatment of American Indians, Alaska Natives, and Native Hawaiians is a long and painful one, rooted in centuries of discrimination, neglect, greed, and violence,” Warren wrote in a Medium post. “Washington owes Native communities a fighting chance to build stronger communities and a brighter future.”

At more than 9,000 words, the plan is more than double the length of any other proposal she’s introduced during her presidential campaign. That includes her ambitious plans to break up some of the biggest tech companies in the world, forgive more than $600 billion in student loan debt, and revamp the federal government’s investment in rural America — including a massive expansion of broadband.

There is A LOT here if you read through the whole plan. It's quite remarkable actually.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Fmr. PA Gov Ed Rendell: "I like Elizabeth Warren. Too bad she’s a hypocrite."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-like-elizabeth-warren-too-bad-shes-a-hypocrite/2019/09/11/409d5ed0-d4d3-11e9-86ac-0f250cc91758_story.html

OUCH!

Biden was always going to win Pennsylvania's primary, but Rendell's support just bolts it down.

This op-ed comes off as if he had his feelings hurt that people will think he's lobbying for a federal job by giving lots of money. Geez dude, c'mon.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

https://www.insider.com/obama-aides-called-elizabeth-warren-sanctimonious-narcissist-2019-9

If anything this just quells those folks on the Left who were criticizing her for being too establishment.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

Total fraud. She is on record saying that she had to quit because she didn't have the qualifications. There is literally video of her saying the same. This is Trump level pathological lie.

It is fair to say that Warren supporters are Trump type cultists openly defending such fraud against video evidence of Warren.

Please include this video if you're going to cite it