2008 Election Game: Campaign Thread

[Niemeyerite]

Keep in mind that posting early gives you some extra points.

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Update later today.

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I'll give some more time so Nader can post his schedule.

"Some more time" means 2-3 hours

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September 16th - September 22nd starts now.

Dean closing the gap, takes the lead in Wisconsin!

McCain campaign... too boring?

Fmr. Congresswoman Susan Molinari (R-NY), Congressmen Dan Boren (D-OK) and Chris Shays (R-CT) endorse Michael Bloomberg.

"Right now, I'm undecided between Bloomberg and Nader. I'll endorse one of them after watching the first debate" - Jesse Ventura.

"Dennis Kucinich is a great pick. Congratulations, Nader. Here you have a new supporter" - actor Sean Penn.
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National:
John McCain 35%
Howard Dean/Patty Murray 33%
Michael Bloomberg/Evan Bayh 24%
Ralph Nader 4%
Undecided 4%

Hawaii
Dean 43%
Bloomberg 26%
McCain 18%
Nader 7%
Undecided 6%

Oregon
Dean 38%
McCain 28%
Bloomberg 24%
Nader 4%
Undecided 6%

Alaska
McCain 38%
Bloomberg 26%
Dean 18%
Nader 12%
Undecided 6%

Connecticut
Dean 38%
Bloomberg 30%
McCain 20%
Nader 6%
Undecided 6%

New Jersey
Dean 34%
Bloomberg 33%
McCain 26%
Nader 2%
Undecided 5%

Florida
McCain 35%
Dean 31%
Bloomberg 26%
Nader 3%
Undecided 5%

Texas
McCain 44%
Dean 29%
Bloomberg 21%
Nader 2%
Undecided 4%

California
Dean 38%
Bloomberg 28%
McCain 26%
Nader 4%
Undecided 4%

Wisconsin
Dean 35%
McCain 34%
Bloomberg 23%
Nader 5%
Undecided 3%
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*If you want to complete your schedule (Bayh EDIT:and Nader) you can, it won't be useless but it won't have the same effects as if you had done it at time. If you had told me that you wouldn't be able to update this early I'd have had my update tomorrow, but you haven't...

What about having a debate next week? It'll change things if there's a clear winner, so you decide (1 vote for each candidate, you decide: I suppose at least 3 of you will vote 'yes' on the debate).

**McCain, Dean, you can use republican and democrat senators, governors or representatives as long as they haven't supported Bloomberg or Nader. I have some other democrats and/or republicans who may support Bloomberg or Nader, but I'm almost sure you won't use them in your campaigns. If you want a member of the opposite party endorsing you, PM me: if it's realistic enough, you'll have his/her endorsement.

***There won't be polls next week if you decide to have a debate. If it's the case (and I'm sure you want to debate) the next poll will be after the debate.

[Niemeyerite]

Urgent Arkansas poll!

McCain 43% (-1)
Dean 29% (-4)
Bloomberg 18% (+6)
Nader 4% (=)
Undecided 6% (-1%)

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Nice thing that I found out:

Word Cloud of Nader's Speech

http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/6738041/Nader_Speech

You have to post your schedule today if you don't want to lose a turn. I'll update this evening (~20:00 GMT). Tomorrow we have the debate

EDIT: 2 more hours.

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September 23th - September 29th starts now.

Poll has Dean and McCain even in Colorado (has DNC worked there?), Bloomberg and Dean almost tied in NY, Dean leading in Michigan, Bloomberg with the lead in Indiana. NH is a 3-way tie!

What-if this becomes a Dean vs. Bloomberg race? Pollster PRP will ask McCain, Bloomberg and Dean voters who's their second choice!

No National poll this week. Debate tomorrow!

Ralph Nader not on campaign trail!

Republicans abandoning John McCain? Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) endorses Michael Bloomberg ("Come on, John, I can't stand this campaign, how can it be soooooooo boring, soooo uninspiring. Bloomberg is my man, if he promises to fight for Alaskans interests"), and so does democrat representative Baron Hill (D-IN): "I like to say: I'm just like Evan Bayh, but I'm not your Senator. I'm your representative. So, if I tell people I'm just like him, I have to support him. But I'm still a democrat, and I'm running for reelection, I want this to be clear".

Republican-turned-independent, senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT), endorses Howard Dean: "I have to say this now: I voted for Howard Dean more than once -and more than twice, too-. He's been a great Governor, he's done a great job, he really has. And I'm endorsing him not only because of that, but also because he is the voice of rural America". VT Governor, Jim Douglas (R-VT) says Dean would make a great President, will decide who will get his support after the debate.
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New York:
Dean 37%
Bloomberg 36%
McCain 21%
Nader 2%
Undecided 4%

Colorado:
Dean 35%
McCain 35%
Bloomberg 21%
Nader 4%
Undecided 5%

Indiana:
Bloomberg 35%
McCain 31%
Dean 26%
Nader 2%
Undecided 6%

Michigan:
Dean 35%
McCain 32%
Bloomberg 24%
Nader 3%
Undecided 6%

New Hampshire:
Dean 33%
McCain 32%
Bloomberg 29%
Nader 2%
Undecided 4%

[Niemeyerite]

I hate being authoritarian, but you should have told me that you had an important test, so I wouldn't have updated the game yesterday!! I'll have an update for tomorrow or Thursday (AFTER your test, so tell me when it is). It's NHI who decides when to release his poll, until then you can answer his questions.

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If my campaign is boring, then how am I supposed to make it more exciting?

Dean, Bloomberg and Nader have seen their polling numbers improve since DNC ended. Compare their posts with your posts, it's nothing personal, Oldies. It's just that I think their posts have been, generally speaking, better. Am I not being objective? Because I'll check every post again if other people agree I've not been fair to you.

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Bloomberg, you posted September 30th, too. So next week don't post that day again, OK?

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OOC: The other three candidates are all going to be at an advantage over myself as they'll be able to compare their responses to mine. Imagine how beneficial it'd be to be in a debate where you know exactly what others have said. Despite having my own RL distractions, I posted my responses as soon as possible, and despite my efforts, this game is going to be delayed waiting for everyone else to respond. I think that deserves a little bit of a boost. Maybe NHI will decide that there should be consequences for waiting around for others to post their response and he'll grade the debate tonight or tomorrow, as was planned.

I understand your point of view. I'd keep that in mind for my poll, and I'm sure NHI does, too. And here's why: in the last democratic debate, Dean posted first, and Obama second. IMHO, Obama had better answers, but I'd had given Dean the win, and that's what NHI did, so I suppose he knew that it would've been unfair to Dean if Obama had a slim victory only because he posted after reading his answer.

So, I wouldn't worry. Someone has to be the first, BTW! 

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I think you can release your poll, NHI. Dean, you have to post your answers as soon as possible if you don't want to lose the momentum you were picking!

*A bad performance could be enough to stop your momentum, anyway. But you won the 2 democratic debates, you are good at this.

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September 30th -October 6th starts now!



Bloomberg narrowly wins debate, Americans say! Democrats loved Nader.

McCain lead in polls gone, Dean takes the lead! Nader, Bloomberg have momentum.

Former Governor Jesse Ventura (I-MN) and former Senator Carol Moseley Broun (D-IL) endorse Nader!

Former Mayor Ed Koch (D-NY), Representative Mike Castle (R-DE), former Governor Bob Ehrlich (R-MD) and Nancy Brinker (R-IL) endorse Bloomberg.

Governor Jim Douglas (R-VT) endorses Howard Dean.

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PRP poll:

Howard Dean 32%
John McCain 31%
Howard Dean 27%
Ralph Nader 6%
Undecided 4%

2nd choice of...

McCain voters:
Michael Bloomberg 53%
Howard Dean 18%
Ralph Nader 7%
Undecided/Don't know 22%

Dean voters:
Ralph Nader 34%
Michael Bloomberg 29%
John McCain 11%
Undecided/Don't know 26%

Bloomberg voters:
Howard Dean 30%
Ralph Nader 21%
John McCain 19%
Undecided/Don't know 30%

Nader voters:
Howard Dean 31%
Michael Bloomberg 23%
John McCain 4%
Undecided/Don't know 42%

Each of you (Presidential candidates, not VPs) have the right to request 3 state polls which will be released during this week -tomorrow, that is-.

Bloomberg has already posted September 30th and Bayh the entire week. Next debate will be among VP candidates, next week, does anyone want to be the moderator? I hope NHI can moderate the next Presidential debate, which will be the following week. Do you think we need yet another Presidential debate or is it enough with 2 and 1 for VPs?

[Niemeyerite]

Candidates tied in every crucial state!!
Debates, ads and activity will decide the winner in each one of them. Undecideds more important than ever!

Alaska
McCain 34%
Bloomberg 30%
Dean 16%
Nader 15%
Undecided 5%

Minnesota
Dean 34%
McCain 28%
Bloomberg 26%
Nader 8%
Undecided 4%

Hawaii
Dean 39%
Bloomberg 29%
Nader 15%
McCain 12%
Undecided 5%

Pennsylvania
Dean 33%
Bloomberg 29%
McCain 29%
Nader 4%
Undecided 5%

Michigan
Dean 34%
McCain 32%
Bloomberg 25%
Nader 5%
Undecided 4%

Virginia
Dean 34%
McCain 33%
Bloomberg 25%
Nader 4%
Undecided 4%

Ohio
Dean 31%
McCain 30%
Bloomberg 26%
Nader 9%
Undecided 4%

Florida
Bloomberg 32%
Dean 31%
McCain 28%
Nader 5%
Undecided 4%

Colorado
Dean 33%
McCain 33%
Bloomberg 23%
Nader 6%
Undecided 5%

California
Den 37%
Bloomberg 29%
McCain 22%
Nader 8%
Undecided 4%

New York
Dean 37%
Bloomberg 37%
McCain 17%
Nader 5%
Undecided 4%

Connecticut
Dean 37%
Bloomberg 32%
McCain 17%
Nader 10%
Undecided 4%

[Niemeyerite]

Update, anyone?

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LoL. Don't worry, Dean, this helps you more than it hurts.

[Niemeyerite]

October 7th -October 13th starts now!



VP debate tomorrow!! Presidential candidates will debate next week!

No change in polls after a very active campaign week by each one of the candidates.

PRP national map has lots of tied states! Undecideds have the key to Presidency.
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PRP map & poll:
[0-4%) lead --> Toss-up (yellow)
[4-7%) lead --> light color (30% tonality)
[8-12%) lead --> 40% color
[12-15%) lead --> 60% color
[>15%) lead --> dark color (90% tonality)

Dean/Murray             32% 186 EVs
McCain/Pataki           31% 171 EVs
Bloomberg/Bayh       27% 15 EVs
Nader/Kucinich            6% 0 EVs



Each of you (Presidential candidates, not VPs) have the right to request 2 state polls which will be released next week.

[Niemeyerite]

Now we can have surrogates?

If you find any former player who wants to post something as a surrogate, of course you can. That said, it doesn't help a lot (but at least helps a bit). The really important thing is what the Presidential candidate and his running-mate says, where he goes to...

Oh, and this time Jerry will have to show me his post-debate poll (NHI was totally free to do that, and will be in the following Presidential debates) for obvious reasons, so be sure that the winner of the poll is the winner of the debate.

[Niemeyerite]

OOC: Hahahaha, NOW this is great.

I forgot to post endorsements in my last update! Here you have the endorsements for this week and the next one (you can request more by PM):

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For Dean: former Governor Linwood Holton (R-VA), former Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD), former Representative Jim Leach (R-IA) and the Mountain Party (MP-WV).

For McCain: former Senator Zell Miller (D-GA) and former Representative Tim Penny (DFL-MN).

For Bloomberg: former Governor and Senator Lowell Weicker (I-CT), former Senator Lincoln Chafee (R-RI), former Governor Steve Merrill (R-NH), Representative Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) and Mayor Bobby Bright of Montgomery (I-AL).

For Nader: musician Jello Biafra (G-CO), actor Val Kilmer (D?-NM), Hawaii DP Chairman Brian Schatz (D-now-G-HI) and historian Howard Zinn (S-NY).

[Niemeyerite]

OOC: Looks like that Mr Gravel is trying to reduce my chances on Alaska! :/

All right! Now I'll have my owm surrogates! Who wants to be Jesse Ventura, Rocky Anderson, Noam Chomsky, Carol Moseley or Jello Biafra?

My polls claim: Georgia and Oregon.

I would like to ask the support of former Senator George McGovern and Michael Moore!

Buddy Roemer and Jimmy McMillan!

It'd have been better if you PMed me instead of posting that here. And I don't think there are many people interested on being surrogates, only the ones who had a role in this game... But if you find them, use them!

Oldies, you can be Pataki in the debate if you want to, because sooner than later Jerry will release his poll and you not taking part in the debate would have bad press...

[Niemeyerite]

BTW: I hope to have my schedules up by sometime tomorrow.

Dean and Nader should update, too. If you don't update this week, Bloomberg will get all the good press, just what he needs after a strong debate performance... Update soon, guys! Jerry will release his post-debate poll today.

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Nader and McCain, I'll have an update for today.

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Johnny, the update is coming.

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So, Kucinich, Murray, Pataki and McCain haven't released their schedules...

... Michael Bloomberg likes this.

I'll let you update tonight, but of course it won't have the same effects of Dean and Bloomberg posts

[Niemeyerite]

October 14th -October 20th starts now!



Presidential townhall debate about foreign policy tomorrow (and next week, too)!!

McCain and Pataki not on campaign trail after a strong performance by the NY Governor in the VP debate!

Bloomberg tied for 2nd in polls for the first time!! Nader losing his support to Dean.

"I have realized McCain is too old to be President. He disappears one week each month. And republicans in my state prefer Bloomberg over him, so I feel morally obligated to vote for him"- Governor Jodi Rll (R-CT)

"I've heard that Dean doesn't support gun control, is that true? I was thinking about voting for Bloomberg, now it's official: I'm endorsing the Mayor of our biggest city"- Actor Matt Damon (D-MA).

"El tal Ralph Nader parece una chispita de coherencia en un país de locos. Ojalá el pueblo estadounidense abra los ojos y vote masivamente por él"- Fidel Castro (C-Cuba)

New York Working Families party endorses Howard Dean.
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Dean/Murray               33%
McCain/Pataki             29%
Bloomberg/Bayh         29%
Nader/Kucinich             5%
Undecided                    4%

State polls will be released next week, when the last debate takes place (there won't be a national poll).