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Question: What does the Confederate Flag mean to you?
#1
proud emblem of Southern heritage
 
#2
reminder of slavery and segregation
 
#3
whites are superior to blacks
 
#4
something else
 
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CARLHAYDEN
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« on: August 20, 2005, 11:48:36 PM »


The people to fear are the people that run away from alchohol or refuse to go into a sex shop. you can talk to them but they live in world that resembels the 19th century.

You're so right.  Alcohol and sex didn't exist in the 19th century.  They are both recent inventions.

Christianity only developed into a religion as it allowed people who commited themselves to god to be educated.

Thats why people in the 6th century became monks they had nothing else to do so they just learnt to read. 14 centuries education is available to us all but we still have the brainwashing clinics that twists literature. That was why people were afraid of the reformation in the 16th century becaue anyone can read it and translate it to what they want. we can all get quotes that mean one thing and find another that means the direct opposite.


So, Christianity wasn't a religion until civil education largely disappeared with the collapse of ancient civilization in europe?!?
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2005, 09:26:33 PM »

Don't forget Joe Johnston was also a very capable individual.  Had Davis not removed him a put in Hood, the Confederates might have been able to hold out long enough to effect the 1864 election.  It was the fall of Atlanta, more than anything else, that convinced the northern public that the war could be won.  But, Davis didn't want Confederate men "retreating" as he called it, and so, he sacked Johnston, and his very well thought out gradual defense plan, and went with Hood... well, I am sure you know the rest.

I still can't fathom why he put John bell Hood in that position. Was it simp,y because he felt Johnston was fortifying instead of attacking? I know Davis hated Johnston as much as he hated Bearegaurd, but why one armed Hood? I guess ego makes people do stupid things very easily.

Civil War talk is never as fun if States isn't in the conversation. Wink

Imagine if Stonewall Jackson wasn't shot and died shortly after contracting pneumonia during the battle of Chancellorsville. What effect would he have had durring the remainder of the war?



I would like to suggest that the War between the States produced two brilliant genrals (Jackson for the south, and Sherman for the north).

There were a couple of very capable commanders on both sides that did not get the credit they earned due to the inability of the respective Presidents to understand their merits (McClellan for the north, Johnston for the south).

Unfortunately both sides had a lot of idiots in command of troops.

Basically the north won because of its superior resources.
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CARLHAYDEN
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2005, 09:53:27 AM »

I must disagree.

If you look at the record, you will see that most whites in the south at the start of the War between the States did NOT own slaves.

Slavery was only a tangential issue in the conflict.

Remember that even Lincoln did not publicly alledge that abolition of slavery was a factor until late in the war (and slavery continued to be legal in Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri until the adoption of the 13th amendment).

Further, segregation was (at the time of the civil war) heavily approved of in the north.
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