Funny how your post includes neither, eh?
It includes both. What do you think “carry water for a party that hates you” means?
That is not a criticism of anyone's beliefs. If you think my "take" on this issue is wrong, you are welcomed to offer up arguments to change my mind (or at least make me sound stupid.) All you have done is show how ungracious you are to the idea that queer folks are diverse in their politics and lived experiences, probably because it is simpler for you to treat LGBTQ+ people as political props in service to an agenda.
Alright, I'll rephrase my post as a question: how can you, as a gay man, support the political party that is hostile to LGBT rights? Even if you agree with the Republican Party on every other issue, how can you not view your civil rights as the most important thing? I genuinely do not understand it.
He might believe in rights for L, G, B, and even T individuals but oppose any "LGBTQ+" specific rights or inclusion. I mean I fall into rhat category. I tend to believe LGBTQ+- refers to an ideological movement that is inherently anti Conservative and anti gay male because it is anti any male who dosent fit into a specific, leftwing, urban definition. It's definitely anti large numbers of women, including Lesbians if they think sex is real. If Trans individuals dare to agree they are called "Truscum".
So no, why should he or I or any conservative owe any loyalty to a movement or organizations which in their present form hate us? At least one side agrees on some issues.
But the error is assuming we agree on "LGBTQ+" labeled stuff
Yeah, suuuuure the people who go “we want to have the same rights as straight people and be left alone to live” is an idea logical movement.
The actual ideological movement is the opposite men’s rights/groomer/rapist culture that proliferates online.
