The Next DNC Chair: TOM PEREZ WINS, makes Ellison deputy chair

[MasterJedi]

The fact that the Democratic elite still thinks of the party as their private club and doesn't even feel the need to pretend to be willing to open a discussion with the broader public is most definitely one of the reason why the party keeps losing.

Kind of hard to not think that way when Bernie's wing only pretends to care and pay attention to politics every 4 years and ignores the rest.

[MasterJedi]

The fact that the Democratic elite still thinks of the party as their private club and doesn't even feel the need to pretend to be willing to open a discussion with the broader public is most definitely one of the reason why the party keeps losing.

Kind of hard to not think that way when Bernie's wing only pretends to care and pay attention to politics every 4 years and ignores the rest.

Still bashing the left wing....Smart politics.

I'm not liberal, I'd consider myself moderately conservative but no longer a Republican after Trump/the Tea Party 2010 revolution so it makes sense.

[MasterJedi]

The fact that the Democratic elite still thinks of the party as their private club and doesn't even feel the need to pretend to be willing to open a discussion with the broader public is most definitely one of the reason why the party keeps losing.

Kind of hard to not think that way when Bernie's wing only pretends to care and pay attention to politics every 4 years and ignores the rest.

Wise words from a former conservative hack who only started caring about the Democratic party after his own party was overtaken by the hateful madness his ilk created and exploited for decades.

I still don't care about the Democratic party, Sanders and his wing are just as bad as Trump, they're just not racist/sexist, etc. But the Dems are the only other party right now so there really isn't another choice. Plus, in the end you need us just as much as we need you to defeat Trump and his deplorables.

[MasterJedi]

The fact that the Democratic elite still thinks of the party as their private club and doesn't even feel the need to pretend to be willing to open a discussion with the broader public is most definitely one of the reason why the party keeps losing.

Kind of hard to not think that way when Bernie's wing only pretends to care and pay attention to politics every 4 years and ignores the rest.

Wise words from a former conservative hack who only started caring about the Democratic party after his own party was overtaken by the hateful madness his ilk created and exploited for decades.

I still don't care about the Democratic party, Sanders and his wing are just as bad as Trump, they're just not racist/sexist, etc. But the Dems are the only other party right now so there really isn't another choice. Plus, in the end you need us just as much as we need you to defeat Trump and his deplorables.

LOL no, people like you are a scourge on the Democratic party, and the sooner you return to your true home, the better for us.

Honey people like you trying to purge the party are what is wrong.  You guys really need to see the damn enemy instead of the god damn purity tests.

He's a socialist though, they have always had purity tests. Basically the tea party of the left, both sides are equally as bad as the extremes of either side never work out. So instead of working with others in the political spectrum they'd prefer 8 years of Trump, it's disgusting.

[MasterJedi]

The fact that the Democratic elite still thinks of the party as their private club and doesn't even feel the need to pretend to be willing to open a discussion with the broader public is most definitely one of the reason why the party keeps losing.

Kind of hard to not think that way when Bernie's wing only pretends to care and pay attention to politics every 4 years and ignores the rest.

Wise words from a former conservative hack who only started caring about the Democratic party after his own party was overtaken by the hateful madness his ilk created and exploited for decades.

I still don't care about the Democratic party, Sanders and his wing are just as bad as Trump, they're just not racist/sexist, etc. But the Dems are the only other party right now so there really isn't another choice. Plus, in the end you need us just as much as we need you to defeat Trump and his deplorables.

LOL no, people like you are a scourge on the Democratic party, and the sooner you return to your true home, the better for us.

Honey people like you trying to purge the party are what is wrong.  You guys really need to see the damn enemy instead of the god damn purity tests.

He's a socialist though, they have always had purity tests. Basically the tea party of the left, both sides are equally as bad as the extremes of either side never work out. So instead of working with others in the political spectrum they'd prefer 8 years of Trump, it's disgusting.

"Socialist" really isn't a good descriptor of Tony's ideology.

Honestly true but he has his socialist avatar so it works for me lol

[MasterJedi]

Not wanting people whose views on all but a few issues are diametrically opposed to those of a party inside said party = "purity tests". OK, then...

What part of "we aren't Democrats and don't want to be part of your party but have to work with you as you're the only other alternative" is hard to understand? In the end though as you've said we're awful and shouldn't be allowed to work with the Democrats so you'd prefer Trump, we get it, not that hard. Rather have it fully your way and lose than get some of what you want now but help crush Trump and the deplorables.

[MasterJedi]

I for once welcome the fact that people like MasterJedi are fleeing the GOP and becoming Democrats. It makes the Republican Party much less awful, and there's still enough sane Republicans left.

Yeah, we're not becoming Democrats. We're working behind the scenes for the collapse of Trump/tea partiers. It'll happen by itself with your overreach but we'd not leave a burnt out husk of a party in its wake.

[MasterJedi]

"we aren't Democrats and don't want to be part of your party but have to work with you as you're the only other alternative"

Fine, then shut up about internal Democratic politics and let people who actually share the Democratic party's values choose their leaders instead of shilling for the establishment.

And if Democrats are to win elections in the future, they need the MasterJedis of the world as a part of the coalition. The demographic trends of this election was not a one-off event.

Democratic candidate sells out the working class in order to chase rich conservative suburbanites and blows an unlosable election in the process. Clearly the solution is to sell out the working class and chase rich conservative suburbanites more!

Basically it's "we need to get as liberal as possible so nobody will support us but our base and then be SHOCKED when we lose and determine we just need to be more liberal". That arrogance that you've always had is your greatest weakness and it's probably the left's greatest weakness in general too. Go down with the ship over compromise. It's what my fiancé deals with the toddlers she works with, get nothing over compromising and getting something which is better in the long run.

[MasterJedi]

You don't really hear much about skills/technical/trades training either. Go for raising taxes on the rich and then re-investing that money back into retraining people into the other trades in the blue collar areas where manufacturing is leaving. The skilled trades are without people needed. Spending on actual infrastructure, etc. Jobs are there, but you just have the "coal is done, the manufacturing jobs are gone" but never saying what they want to do. Need to give the people hope and a vision. It's why they'll choose "we'll bring the jobs back" even if it's not true, Trump was at least telling them something would be done.