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« on: December 15, 2003, 10:40:08 PM »

Another thing to consider....

If you take Nader out of 2000 and give a majority of his votes to Gore, you have to take the other third party candidates out as well, or at least the ones that made a dent.  Pat Buchanan.  Even all of Buchanan's votes going to Bush still wouldn't be enough to derail Gore, assuming much of Nader's votes went to him, winning him Florida.

A recent comment made by Nader (who is likely to run again) sums it up: "Gore beat Gore."  In other words, Nader's run shouldn't have cost Gore the election.  It's not Nader's fault Gore failed to win his own home state of Tennessee.  If Gore had done this, he would be president today.

I believe Gore's loss of Tennessee was even more important than his loss of Florida.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 12:16:29 PM »

To clear up a few things....

I won't be taking my quote down.  Just b/c something offends you doesn't mean you can't live with it.  Have you heard the comedy of James Gregory?  He has an part in his act about how everytime someone is offended by *anything* they want to pass a law so the offender can't offend them anymore.  It gets to a point where it's just plain stupid, and there's no other word for it than that.  My quote stays until I feel like putting up another quote (which will probably be soon, seeing as how I find new ones that strike me all the time, so don't cry your eyes out).

But.  Just b/c I have this quote does not mean I agree with it.  After all, I've voted Democrat before and wouldn't rule out voting Democrat again.  I've said on this forum once before that I could vote for someone like Zell Miller, or even Joe Lieberman.  So I do disagree with the quote.  Simply enough, I found it humorous, as many of Coulter's comments are.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2003, 10:16:34 AM »

Another thing to consider....

If you take Nader out of 2000 and give a majority of his votes to Gore, you have to take the other third party candidates out as well, or at least the ones that made a dent.  Pat Buchanan.  Even all of Buchanan's votes going to Bush still wouldn't be enough to derail Gore, assuming much of Nader's votes went to him, winning him Florida.

A recent comment made by Nader (who is likely to run again) sums it up: "Gore beat Gore."  In other words, Nader's run shouldn't have cost Gore the election.  It's not Nader's fault Gore failed to win his own home state of Tennessee.  If Gore had done this, he would be president today.

I believe Gore's loss of Tennessee was even more important than his loss of Florida.
I must take issue with your Ann Coulter Quote. It's just stupid is all. I vote Republican when I feel that my party doesn't offer me a decent candidate. I will not vote Dean. Therefore, am I not mature? Change your quote dude? It's offensive!

I don't think there's any problem being a "swing voter" if the definition of a swing voter is a moderate who although generally supporting one particular party, occassionally will vote for candidates of the other.

I think the "idiot voters" Ann Coulter is talking about are the ones that just have no political philosophy at all.  The "idiot voters" are the ones who vote based on who they like better rather than on policy.

Yes, like some of the people who voted for Kennedy because of his looks.
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