Roe v. Wade

[TeePee4Prez]

I believe that Roe v. Wade should be overturned and that the abortion issue should be turned over to the states. If Vermont wants to allow any type of abortion to be legal and available without parental consent, if the patient is a minor, so be it but if Utah wants to allow no abortions it should have the right to do that also. If we allow the States to handle this seperately this abortion issue would be solved in many ways. Some states would allow abortions and some would not. People in any state may vote for whether or not they want abortions to be legal in their states. It solves a problem that is being mishandled by both the legislature, and the judiciary.

NO WAY! NO WAY!  In my opinion, state boundaries do not relfect the values of the people living in it.  Look at Pennsylvania.  Within our boundaries is a very large range of opinion on this matter.  Should Cnetral PA dictate the values of Southeastern PA?  Absolutely not.  That's why there is a federal government. 

I'm also saying this ebcause I don't want the likes of John Perzel making the decision on abortion.

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I was actually giving an good example fo why I'm not a fan of states rights in this case. 

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I was actually giving an good example fo why I'm not a fan of states rights in this case. 

Well you might not be a fan of it because you probably realize your view wouldn't be the view of a majority of people in the state. To me, it seemed like you were stating that only central PA would be dictating views on abortion for the whole state. Not true.

I know that, but the Southeast portion is densely populated and generally pro-choice.

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I was actually giving an good example fo why I'm not a fan of states rights in this case. 

Well you might not be a fan of it because you probably realize your view wouldn't be the view of a majority of people in the state. To me, it seemed like you were stating that only central PA would be dictating views on abortion for the whole state. Not true.

I know that, but the Southeast portion is densely populated and generally pro-choice.

And that has nothing to do with the overall belief of the state.

My point was PA's boundaries are really not reflective of it's general values.  there are to many different cultures in PA to amke Roe a states' rights issue.  There will be millions unhappy in PA if Roe were overturned and our legislature decided it.  A solution would be to go to Maryland or New Jersey, but there may be some stupid national laws that may make it harder such as this "Child Custody and Prtection Act" IIRC is on the floor right now or is pending.

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I was actually giving an good example fo why I'm not a fan of states rights in this case. 

Well you might not be a fan of it because you probably realize your view wouldn't be the view of a majority of people in the state. To me, it seemed like you were stating that only central PA would be dictating views on abortion for the whole state. Not true.

I know that, but the Southeast portion is densely populated and generally pro-choice.

And that has nothing to do with the overall belief of the state.

My point was PA's boundaries are really not reflective of it's general values. 

I don't understand what you're trying to say. The Pro-Life position is not reflective of what most people in this state believe? Is that you're point?
 

Not at all.  I know most of what's outside the Southeast is pro-life.  The thing is it's only 50-55%, not an overwhelming majority.  I couldn't leave 45-50% out in the cold.  This state would be sharply divided if Roe were overturned.  Take it a step further... Should abortion be a "municipality rights issue"?  States' rights i not a good concept for Roe.   

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Planned Parenthood would fight that quite ferociously.  I doubt Roe will be overturned.  Of course I don't want to make abortion a States Rights issue because people in this area would have to go to Maryland or New Jersey.

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Well, the majortiy rules, I guess. Thing is state boundaries are really messed up.  I remember an Inquirer article stating what the boundaries should be.  You have to agree with me that Pennsylvania is extremely diverse though.

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Well, the majortiy rules, I guess. Thing is state boundaries are really messed up.  I remember an Inquirer article stating what the boundaries should be.  You have to agree with me that Pennsylvania is extremely diverse though.

It is diverse but you just stated that the majority rules so if abortion was to be overturned by a majority, what would be the big deal?

Within what jurisdiction?  National, state, or county?  You know Philadelphia and Montgomery will fight that tooth and nail.

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I'm making many arguments against makign abortion a states rights issue.  I feel the Feds shoudl superced it.  Now about taxes.. Yes, states can levy their own taxes as they see fit.  there is a difference.

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Abortions are up under the Bush adminstration, in case anyone cares.

Probably due to the increase in poverty and unemployment, as well as the continuing fall of real wages for most workers.  Can't have the kid if you can't afford it!

Amen!