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« on: November 27, 2004, 09:35:06 PM »

There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2004, 09:40:24 PM »

There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.

Would you be upset if/when your son/daughter got a tattoo without your knowledge?

I would make an exception for that and it would be 14.  With abortion a number of things can happen like the father raping her or either parent beating her.  And yes in Nation's case throwing her out of teh house for no other reason.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2004, 09:42:22 PM »

A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years

And her parents are also responsible for her until she is eighteen. Parents effectivley own their children until they are of legal age.

So the parent should be responsible for the child conceived under 18 until that's 18?  And no parents do not OWN their children until 18.  A father can't have sex with his daughter because it's an object.  That was in Roman times buddy.  
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2004, 09:44:21 PM »

There are excpetions to abortion.  I oppose it.  A child is something a girl is responsible for for the next 18 years and it should be her choice.  Nation is right, some parents are assholes and have no scruples either.

Would you be upset if/when your son/daughter got a tattoo without your knowledge?

I would make an exception for that and it would be 14.  With abortion a number of things can happen like the father raping her or either parent beating her.  And yes in Nation's case throwing her out of teh house for no other reason.

You dodged the question. Would you be upset if your child went behind your back and got a tattoo w/out telling you? And I strongly do believe in throwing an 18y.o. out the door once they hit 18. It gives them a good lesson in life.

Sure I would be upset.  But what does that have to do with abortion?  The child lives with the tattoo and can easily have it removed as should a baby in the 1st 2 trimesters without restrictions.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2004, 09:49:27 PM »

What she does with her body is her business.

After she's eighteen, maybe, but not as a minor. She would need permission for a tatoo, or a peircing, why not a medical proceedure?

Do you think a minor would want to spend the remainder of her young life, what would be her college years, and what would be her first years in the working world had she not spent her college money on her child, well, raising a child?

I'm with BRTD on this one as well. Tattoos and piercings are also one's own business.

And I would be upset if my child had a tattoo, but it's still his/hers choice. I would simply warn them of what would come if she didn't consider herself to be associated with her tattoo in the future. They got the tattoo, and their only punishment should be having to live that tattoo down.

A childs business is the parents business until they leave their parents roof, plain and simple. IF she made the mistake of getting pregnant in the first place that is the CONSEQUENCE of her stupid/ignorant actions. Of course if you teach your children responsiblity your chances of that happening go down. (Note: I did NOT say disappear, so don't stick words in my mouth.)

Well, if it is a consequence of her, she should have the right to choose PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2004, 09:53:17 PM »

A decision like this should not have to rely on the "stewardship" of her parents.  Her parents can be poor stewards and this is a decision a woman will have to lvie with far beyond age 18 without any parental support.  I would like to make life easier and say the decision should not be given to the whim of the parent.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2004, 09:56:08 PM »

So the parent should be responsible for the child conceived under 18 until that's 18?  And no parents do not OWN their children until 18.  A father can't have sex with his daughter because it's an object.  That was in Roman times buddy. 

I did not word that well. What I ment that is the parent is responsible for his/her child until he/she is eighteen. No they do not "own" the child, but they are responsible for it's wellbeing.

Better worded Nixon, but I still don't agree with you.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2004, 09:57:28 PM »

A decision like this should not have to rely on the "stewardship" of her parents.  Her parents can be poor stewards and this is a decision a woman will have to lvie with far beyond age 18 without any parental support.  I would like to make life easier and say the decision should not be given to the whim of the parent.

The courts could decide in that case who is best fit to make the decision for the child. Thats why we have a whole 'child court system'. And who is the judge if the parents are poor stewards? The child herself? Obviously, no, for the fact that she may disagree with her parents and call them 'bad' simply for disagreeing with her. If you are under 18 you can't vote and have very few constitutional rights to do anything.

Courts are a bunch of buraucracy and very expensive.  It should not be left up to the courts because it takes too much time.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2004, 10:04:05 PM »

States, you disagree with abortion anyway.  You're obviously going to try to make it as restrictive as possible.
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2004, 07:50:19 PM »

The child has the right to privacy. I oppose abortion, but if the child wants one that's her decision.

The child is also the responsibility of the parent. What happens if the child is injured during the procedure. Then what happens? The parents who didn't need to give their permission have to tend to the child. It's great, isn't it? People don't care enough about the parent's knowing about the abortion but I bet everyone here would agree that it's then the parent's responsibility to care for the kid. So someone like yourself Julien would basically be saying "You don't need to know what you're kid's doing. You have no involvement. But when something bad happens, yeah, now you can get involved." Ridiculous.

And the child is also responsible for their child in turn after age 18.
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