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Question: Does democracy equal majority rule?
#1
yes (dem)
#2
no (dem)
#3
yes (rep)
#4
no (rep)
#5
yes (other)
#6
no (other)
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Author Topic: Does democracy equal majority rule?  (Read 9550 times)
The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« on: May 23, 2005, 01:12:39 PM »

Literal, complete democracy is - i.e. the people vote on every issue. However, we live in a republic, which is a type of democracy in which people elect representatives(who are supposed to be more informed on issues, among other attributes, than regular people - that's the hope at least) rather than voting directly on everything.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2005, 05:59:31 PM »

A system of checks and balances, of which democracy plays a part. However, I don't think unlimited debate should be one of the checks.

I used "we" not in connection to the statement "democracy sucks," but in connection to the statement that democracy is majority rule, something this poll of yours obviously reflects.

I think most people agree that pure democracy sucks.

So you are saying that what we have is great except for the unlimited debate?

I really don't think the 5 Republicans that have voted in this poll are a good measuring stick for the entire Republican population of this country. Do you think they are? But maybe you were only refering to those 5 when you said we? But 5 people is hardly the "majority". Don't you just hate it when a narrow group inside the majority credits the majority with sharing all their little beliefs? I also think I'll hold on to my belief that when the Republicans are not the majority they will, for the most part, join me in supporting minority rights; I've seen it the past, and expect it in the future.

And didn't you say that democracy was a laughable concept? I take it, by that, you intended to say that pure democracy sucks and that the basic concept was sound? Or did you just mean that democracy was laughable concept, like it sounded?

I've noticed you distort people's positions, presumably because your own position is too weak to stand on its own.

When you accuse him of being unclear on whether he dislikes pure democracy or democracy as loosely applied in everyday parlance, you are being fundamentally dishonest.  What he said was:

I think most people agree that pure democracy sucks.

So he was very clear in limiting his comments to only pure democracy.

Clean it up next time.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 06:16:14 PM »

Nice work bringing the debate out of the gutter.

This is what I mean when i say clean it up.  You insult someone, them pretend you didn't insult them as you dive in for seconds.  You very clearly tried to distort A18s position by deliberately ignoring the words he used and altering/ignoring them.
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