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rebeltarian
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« on: September 21, 2009, 01:14:55 PM »
« edited: September 21, 2009, 01:18:09 PM by rebel_libertarian »

I support abortion on the basis of the fundamental libertarian principle of self-ownership: I own my body; hence I am free to dispose of it as I will. There is no legitimate grounding in libertarian philosophy for opposing the right to choose. Can someone 'compromise' on it? Certainly. And that person is not a libertarian.

I love it when the average internet joe tries to zealously define libertarianism in his eyes and claim that everyone else is wrong and not a libertarian.

 Try this: one of the most agreed upon principles of libertarianism is that you do not bring about pre-emptive violence.  So, by killing a person when he/she is still inside of the mother's womb, you are commiting an aggresive act of interventionist violence to terminate a life.  That personally doesn't sound like a very libertarian idea to me, but I'll digress.
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rebeltarian
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 01:24:53 PM »

Where does Ron Paul break with Libertarians?  Honest question.

Abortion
Public Prayer
Gay Marriage
Any social issue pretty much


Paul would've made a great republican if it weren't for his Anti-Israel stances...

After Mitt lost in 2008, I seriously considered Paul as a choice, but his foreign policy stances are too horrible to stand.

Explain to me why Ron Paul is "anti-Israel".  The last time I checked, he wanted America to cut off aid to both Israel and it's Arab opponents and become neutral on the conflict.  Switzerland is neutral to all nations and conflicts, does that make the Swiss "anti-World"?
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rebeltarian
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 01:39:51 PM »
« Edited: September 21, 2009, 01:43:43 PM by rebel_libertarian »

It's not intervention, it's defense. 

When exactly does "it" become a person?  Does it magically become a person when it pops out of the mother's womb?  An unborn has a heartbeat and brain activity within weeks after conception and by the time of delivery in the hospital room, it is a complete human package. 
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rebeltarian
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 02:10:10 PM »


Ah, you socialists really do wish the human race would cease to exist, don't you?  Humans are human, sometimes they choose right, sometimes they choose wrong.  Why always see the glass half empty?  Just curious, did you know that Dennis Kucinich, despite now being effectively pro-choice, is one of the most anti-abortion politicians in America?
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