Why don't Asians vote Republican?

[FloridaRepublican]

For the same reason that Black, Latinos and Natives don't vote Republican : because GOP hates minorities and clearly make it understand.

ummm, are you just playing a game or are you really that brainwashed?

No comment.

Wow.  Republicans hate minorities?  And how so, Antonio?

[FloridaRepublican]

How many African American Republicans are serving in Congress? None.

How many Hispanic/Latino Republicans are serving in Congress? Four, I think, and they're Cuban Americans and some have said that they don't really qualify as real Latinos. (Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Diaz-Balart brothers, and Mel Martinez).

How many Asian American Republicans are serving in Congress? One (Joseph Cao - and he'll be gone in 2010).

How many Native American Republicans are serving in Congress? None. 

How many women are Republicans are in Congress? 21 (out of 91) in both the House (17/74) and Senate (4/17).

How many Jewish Republicans in Congress are there? One (Eric Cantor).

How many LGBT Republicans in Congress are there? None.

Yeah I wouldn't exactly call the Republicans the party of the minorities but more so the party of old angry white men. Republicans don't necessarily hate minorities (aside from homosexuals); they just, well, how do I put this diplomatically, don't tolerate differences?

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

[FloridaRepublican]

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

True, the only problem is that in supporting that position the Republican Party also panders to a base of voters who would like to use skin color as a reason not to hire someone.  A very large and vociferous portion of the Republican base consists of people who use terms like "real America" when talking about lily white rural communities and question the citizenship of a man whose mother was born in Kansas and whose grandfather served in the US army during WWII. 

So, I don't see why its a mystery that minority voters prefer not to align themselves with a party whose supporters are offended by the very presence of minorities in this country.  Until the Republican Party base becomes more tolerant, minorities will continue to vote with the Democrats.  

Stealing the South from the Democrats turned out to be a brilliant short-term strategy for the GOP when LBJ ended the Democratic alliance with Jim Crow.  Now, its coming back to bite the Republicans in the ass.

I would disagree with you when you say that the Republican Party uses skin color as a reason not to hire someone.  Those would only be the ultra-conservative reactionists.

[FloridaRepublican]

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

True, the only problem is that in supporting that position the Republican Party also panders to a base of voters who would like to use skin color as a reason not to hire someone.  A very large and vociferous portion of the Republican base consists of people who use terms like "real America" when talking about lily white rural communities and question the citizenship of a man whose mother was born in Kansas and whose grandfather served in the US army during WWII. 

So, I don't see why its a mystery that minority voters prefer not to align themselves with a party whose supporters are offended by the very presence of minorities in this country.  Until the Republican Party base becomes more tolerant, minorities will continue to vote with the Democrats.  

Stealing the South from the Democrats turned out to be a brilliant short-term strategy for the GOP when LBJ ended the Democratic alliance with Jim Crow.  Now, its coming back to bite the Republicans in the ass.

Thank you, Padfoot. That's the point I was trying to get across. I didn't mention affirmative action although I personally am opposed to it at all levels and if that makes me a racist then so be it, but I digress. I'm used to be calling a racist after supporting Hillary - the racist accusation doesn't phase me at all.

Obviously, Hispanics have been voting so Democratic lately because of the hard-line conservative anti-immigration rhetoric coming from the Republican Party, and we have threads on here discussing why Asians and Native Americans vote Democratic as well. The gender gap seems to be back as well, as I think women have moved more towards the Democratic Party again. Jews seem to be an increasing stronghold for Democrats, and I doubt Democrats have to worry about losing the gay community to the Republicans as long as their party is driven by the Bible thumping bigots and homophobic rednecks who like to compare homosexuals to pedophiles and bestiality and incest and other vile things.

(Interestingly enough, and I'm ashamed to say it, but bestiality is actually legal in Missouri but same-sex marriage is not. We're a pretty ed up state).

Conservatives aren't anti-immigration, they're anti-illegal immigration, as all parties should be.  Is it really that much to ask for a license before voting?  I mean seriously.

[FloridaRepublican]

Green cards?  Absolutely.  I'm just not the kinda guy that thinks the poor deserve to live in the same house and have the same luxuries as the rich.  I just think that those who deserve to be there and those who can actually pay for it should have them.  Do I want the poor to stay poor?  Absolutely not.  I want them to work their way up, not waste their life on welfare.

[FloridaRepublican]

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

The Republican Party and its affiliates pander to a white, reactionary, right-wing base and stirs up those voters by portraying minorities in a bad light.  There is a long history of this.  There was Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in 1968.  I remember how Bush I used Willie Horton ads against Michael Dukakis in 1988.  And don't get me started at the various comments from the right about Sonia Sotomayor.  Perhaps the lowest point was when an ad said she supported Puerto Rican terrorists.  Jeff Sessions fanned these flames when he said that her affiliation with the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund made her "unsuitable for the bench" and claimed the group had taken "shocking" positions with regard to terrorism. 

I take issue with the assumption that an affirmative action hire is less skilled than the supposed (white male) standard.  Sotomayor has more experience as a federal judge than anyone currently serving on the S.C. did at the time of their nomination.  Is she less qualified or "skilled" than Roberts or Alito?

As for the topic at hand, I am Asian and given their treatment of minorities over the years, I view the GOP with contempt.

Bush the first wasn't trying to point out that the guy was black.  In fact, it had nothing to do with the fact that he was black.  The commercial was just to state both Bush's and Dukakis's position on the death penalty and how Dukakis gave first degree murderers weekend passes.  Everyone out west and up north automatically assume that people from down south are reactionary, bible-thumping, minority-hating white people and I'm sick of it.

[FloridaRepublican]

Well the far-left, ideological, liberal zealots of the democratic party don't make their party seem like a welcoming place for anyone.

[FloridaRepublican]

Minorities only like the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party panders to them and they believe in affirmative action instead of hiring a person based on their skill.  The Republicans are not very popular with minorities because the Republicans don't pander to their every whim.

Actually, most minorities don't like the Republican Party because it considers any attempt to legislate fair hiring and employment practices as contrary to "hiring a person based on their skill", and further treats any non-superficial minority outreach as "pandering to their every whim".

"Fair hiring"?  So you're telling me that if a some random black dude and a white intern, with far more experience, walk in to get a job, which currently had 5 whites and 4 blacks employed, the black guy gets the job because there aren't enough black guys?  That's ridiculous.  Not to mention extremely stupid.

[FloridaRepublican]

I personally don't see why anyone wouldn't want to hire a minority to do a job, as long as they're good at it, not because people think it is owed to them as reparations for slavery or some crap.

[FloridaRepublican]

I personally don't see why anyone wouldn't want to hire a minority to do a job, as long as they're good at it, not because people think it is owed to them as reparations for slavery or some crap.

Yes thank you for putting a picture that represents them.

[FloridaRepublican]

All I'm saying is that a person should not be hired based on their color or "equal opportunity" crap.  They should be hired because they are good at their job.  Is that so wrong?

[FloridaRepublican]

Well what do you suggest Republicans do?  Change their ideals in order to garner more voters?

[FloridaRepublican]

All I'm saying is that a person should not be hired based on their color or "equal opportunity" crap.  They should be hired because they are good at their job.  Is that so wrong?

Should someone be denied a job simply because they are a minority or should we have laws in place that make sure that kind of discrimination doesn't happen?

Good lord.  You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.  I'm not saying that I would deny a minority a job, as long as they have the skill to actually DO the job.  And if that makes me a racist then so be it.

[FloridaRepublican]

All I'm saying is that a person should not be hired based on their color or "equal opportunity" crap.  They should be hired because they are good at their job.  Is that so wrong?

Should someone be denied a job simply because they are a minority or should we have laws in place that make sure that kind of discrimination doesn't happen?

Good lord.  You're misinterpreting what I'm saying.  I'm not saying that I would deny a minority a job, as long as they have the skill to actually DO the job.  And if that makes me a racist then so be it.

I'm not talking about what you would personally do.  I'm asking you if you think employers should be able to discriminate on someone and not hire them for no other reason than they are a minority or do you think we should have laws in place to prevent this from happening?

NO I don't think employers should be able to discriminate and not hire someone because they're a minority and YES we should have laws in place to prevent this from happening and we DO have laws preventing this from happening.

[FloridaRepublican]

Yes, the same Republicans who put the Civil Rights Act of 1964 into law.

Good point.  Nobody ever acknowledged that.

[FloridaRepublican]

How many African American Republicans are serving in Congress? None.

How many Hispanic/Latino Republicans are serving in Congress? Four, I think, and they're Cuban Americans and some have said that they don't really qualify as real Latinos. (Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Diaz-Balart brothers, and Mel Martinez).

How many Asian American Republicans are serving in Congress? One (Joseph Cao - and he'll be gone in 2010).

How many Native American Republicans are serving in Congress? None. 

How many women are Republicans are in Congress? 21 (out of 91) in both the House (17/74) and Senate (4/17).

How many Jewish Republicans in Congress are there? One (Eric Cantor).

How many LGBT Republicans in Congress are there? None.

Yeah I wouldn't exactly call the Republicans the party of the minorities but more so the party of old angry white men. Republicans don't necessarily hate minorities (aside from homosexuals); they just, well, how do I put this diplomatically, don't tolerate differences?

Isn't David Dreier gay?

As for the Republicans' poor showing with minorities, I would argue that it has more to do with their resistance to social programs, class warfare, and their lack of pandering to minority groups. 

Absolutely.  I forgot about the republican opposition to social programs.

[FloridaRepublican]

Same reason Jews don't vote GOP: A more communal ethos and a distaste for Christian nationalism.

Interestingly the two most anti-Semitic groups in America, Muslims and Blacks are pretty strong Democratic.

Politics makes strange bedfellows. The Christian Right and big business are exactly enamored with one another either.

Funny.  I was thinking the same thing about the hippies and big government who are enamored with each other.