2012: Hillary Clinton vs John McCain

[Derek]

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It would come down to Ohio. McCain would play up social issues and Clinton would play up the down turned economy.

[Derek]

No way. If unemployment is about 6.5% with a democrat in office, then the democrats lose. Everyone forgets how much a bad economy hurt Jimmy Carter in 1980. It hurts the incumbent party, not just the Republicans.

[Derek]

that's true but both are disappointing. It still depends on which party is currently in office.

[Derek]

no way. Never forget how many ppl are against Hillary and can't stand her. She would never win Arkansas in today's day and age. She would be associated with Obama. Conservatives would talk about her views on healthcare. It's just not something that could happen. In 2008 I think it would've come down to Ohio for her and McCain.

[Derek]

You have a point about her being the beneficiary of Obama's failed administration. I think Arkansas would've been within 7 points in 2008 if she were the nominee too. I still don't think that she would win that state anymore. She would likely be portrayed as someone who lost touch with their roots.