2012: Daniels/Paul vs. Obama/Biden

[Derek]

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I was going to put one up today that was Mitch Daniels/Rand Paul lol. I'd say Daniels would get about 54% at this rate.

[Derek]

The Indiana Toll Road deal (leasing a state asset to a profiteering monopolist) is unpopular in Michigan and Ohio, so I don't expect him to win either state. Daniels cannot win without Ohio.

1. Yes he can win without Ohio because it's dropping to 18 EV.
2. The health care bill is more unpopular than anything that Daniels has done.

[Derek]

Wisconsin and Iowa go to Daniels by several thousand votes, less than 1%.

Yes, but I'd say that MN, PA, CO, and OH would go for Daniels, also. He would sweep the Rust Belt. Also, with Paul on the ticket, the Northeast (i.e Maine and New Hampshire) would be competivie. Maybe Oregon but probably not.

1).  GTFO, get an elementary school education and you can come back.

2).  Ron Paul would destroy the ticket.  An 80 year old as Vice President who believes heroin should be legalized wouldn't do too well in the suburbs, methinks.

Who are you talking to? Besides Ron Paul isn't 80 and if he were he'd be better than Biden calling bakery workers smart asses.

[Derek]

Wisconsin and Iowa go to Daniels by several thousand votes, less than 1%.

Yes, but I'd say that MN, PA, CO, and OH would go for Daniels, also. He would sweep the Rust Belt. Also, with Paul on the ticket, the Northeast (i.e Maine and New Hampshire) would be competivie. Maybe Oregon but probably not.

1. No way does Mitch Daniels sweep the Rust Belt. In fact the only recent GOP nominee (1992 or later) for President whom he will exceed in winning states in the Rust Belt will be John McCain, who managed to lose Indiana.  Because Daniels is associated with Indiana he will win the Hoosier state.

2. There is no "Indiana Miracle". Indiana is just as much a part of the Rust Belt as any other neighboring or nearly-neighboring state. It endures the same ravages of the economic meltdown that Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin have felt.    

3. He does not yet get much national attention. Hard-line Republicans do because they either fit the ideology of FoX or because they are veritable strawmen for other networks. Sure, he could get the GOP nomination, but he won't have the advantage that Ronald Reagan had of having attention throughout the Carter Presidency. If he gets the nomination he is more likely to get the role of Thomas E. Dewey than that of Ronald Reagan.

Indiana is not just another part of the rust belt even if the democrats want people to think so. It's more farm oriented than MI or western NY and is socially conservative to the point of not allowing alcohol purchases after 6p.m. on Sundays. He would have the advantage Clinton had of not having attention throughout the Obama Presidency. If he gets the nomination he is more likely to get the role of Bill Clinton than that of John Kerry.