Why did Obama pick Biden over Bayh?

[Derek]

Joe Biden was handpicked by the elders in the democrat party. That party does not believe that voters are sophisticated enough to make their own decisions and feared that Obama would look too inexperienced with someone who hadn't been there as long. Evan Bayh may have been there a while, but while Biden is CLUELESS on foreign policy; first calling it a disaster and now a success, he at least has alot to say and runs his mouth to the point of killing any media station's ratings. By having alot to say Biden made Obama look better. It was a staged decision picked to help Obama because he had no clue what to do about foreign policy and why would he? He was good at one thing and that is brainwashing a crowd of college students who are hungover til noon everyday. This at least gave Obama some credibility with those over the age of 24 and those with IQ's above 35. As I said, Biden has no idea either but has at least spoken enough about foreign policy to pass as knowledgeable. Yea go ahead and say something about Palin's experience. She was at least conservative and would have been tough on defense. That is all that is needed when it comes to defense because sometimes the only thing terrorists, French, and communists understand is a missile in their bedroom and yellow cake uranium in their fridge.... Don't forget the mustard gas either!

[Derek]

Yep it's all political. Bush chose Cheney. Honestly, someone convince me that it was politically motivated. How much do you think Cheney helped Bush in the 2000 or even 2004 election? Then again, Cheney was the head of Bush's VP committee and he picked himself. Bush could've said no though.

[Derek]

no I'm not. Why do ppl think I'm only serious when talking about policy and not candidates? I do think there have been honest choices though and Dick Cheney as a pick is an honest choice. So was Sarah Palin, Jack Kemp, and Dan Quayle. I'd like to know what things these candidates brought to their tickets other than Palin rallying the conservative base.

[Derek]

Yep it's all political. Bush chose Cheney. Honestly, someone convince me that it was politically motivated. How much do you think Cheney helped Bush in the 2000 or even 2004 election? Then again, Cheney was the head of Bush's VP committee and he picked himself. Bush could've said no though.

Cheney provided foreign policy experience and a measure of defense gravitas to the ticket, considering he was a former respected Secretary of Defense and was considered an old hand.

Exactly. Bush Jr. was attacked as inexperienced on the campaign trail (especially on foreign policy), so he needed someone to give him more credentials in that department. I still can't understand why Gore picked Lieberman, though. Unlike Cheney, he added nothing to the ticket.

Foreign policy wasn't a significant factor in 2000. Yes, Cheney helped Bush while in office, but not to win the white house. Seriously, who on this forum was on the fence but chose Bush because Cheney was his runningmate?

[Derek]

They wouldn't have thought that far into it because the VP isn't a top issue. That doesn't have to do with Biden being picked by Obama so that he could LOOK good on defense.

[Derek]

If Obama got to pick it would've been Kaine.

[Derek]

French allies? Communists not being evil? sounds like Massachusetts

[Derek]

I doubt Obama made the decision and if he would have it would have nothing to do with any current affairs bbesides the polls and what young voters in college wanted to see.

[Derek]

lack of foreign policy is the key phrase there buddy. We're seeing it now in the case of the xmas day bomber and his apologies for America's success now. Biden is a dork and full of gaffes.

[Derek]

yep pure politics, nothing else

[Derek]

Yep it's all political. Bush chose Cheney. Honestly, someone convince me that it was politically motivated. How much do you think Cheney helped Bush in the 2000 or even 2004 election? Then again, Cheney was the head of Bush's VP committee and he picked himself. Bush could've said no though.

Cheney provided foreign policy experience and a measure of defense gravitas to the ticket, considering he was a former respected Secretary of Defense and was considered an old hand.

Exactly. Bush Jr. was attacked as inexperienced on the campaign trail (especially on foreign policy), so he needed someone to give him more credentials in that department. I still can't understand why Gore picked Lieberman, though. Unlike Cheney, he added nothing to the ticket.

Foreign policy wasn't a significant factor in 2000. Yes, Cheney helped Bush while in office, but not to win the white house. Seriously, who on this forum was on the fence but chose Bush because Cheney was his runningmate?

Whether foreign policy was an issue at the time, people wanted someone who would be strong on foreign policy at any time.

That's only Republicans. Look at Blumenthal. The democrats sure voted for him in a hurry despite his lies about being in Vietnam.

[Derek]

Everything Obama has ever done has been pure politics. He has nothing in common with the average ordinary individual.

[Derek]

Everything Obama has ever done has been pure politics. He has nothing in common with the average ordinary individual.

Same for many other Presidents, including Reagan and Bush Jr.

I thought Bush Jr. was as middle America as you can get with his cowboy attire and stuttering.

[Derek]

Everything Obama has ever done has been pure politics. He has nothing in common with the average ordinary individual.

Same for many other Presidents, including Reagan and Bush Jr.

I thought Bush Jr. was as middle America as you can get with his cowboy attire and stuttering.

Other than the whole being born into a millionaire family with political family members who had already reached high office.

What's wrong with that? Obama has grown up spoiled too and if you're envying his money, Kerry has more since his marriage to Teresa Heinze.

[Derek]

Everything Obama has ever done has been pure politics. He has nothing in common with the average ordinary individual.

Same for many other Presidents, including Reagan and Bush Jr.

First of all, there is no Bush jr. There is a George HW Bush and a George W Bush. Secondly, everything that Bush did was not political. One thing that I like about President Bush is that he put the country first and himself and politics last. He said that no matter what happened to him politically, he wanted to keep America safe. Another President like that is Jimmy Carter. He said basically the same thing but in a different situation. He said that no matter what happened to him, he wanted the hostages to come home. I think that our country is blessed to have Presidents like those two. Presidents who can say that they pay no attention to polls and do not care what happens to themselves politically, they only care about what is best for the country are the types of Presidents that we need more of. President Obama does not join that group.

Ronald Reagan also wanted what was best for the country. He made some mistakes. He thought that his economic plan helped the poor, that was wrong. It helped the rich. He and President Johnson, and Franklin Roosevelt are the three presidents who we can blame for the national deficit. Reagan did make some mistakes. But, he made people feel happier again. He asked Americans if they were better off than they were four years ago and in 1980 they were not. He asked them again in 1989 and they were better off. They were happier...children went to bed at night without the fear of nuclear war thanks to Ronald Reagan. The Russians and the Americans had good relations for the first time in fifty years thanks to Ronald Reagan. For a time during the Reagan years, 300,000 jobs were created per month. That was once again thanks to Ronald Reagan. So, Reagan did a lot of good things as well. And there is no real evidence to prove that everything that Reagan did was political as there is not for George W Bush.

I think that your comment is a partisan political comment rather than a factual comment.

President Bush like alot of his fellow Texans was an honest man led by his Christian principles. As for Reagan, 300,000 jobs a month? Ah ok sounds good to me.

[Derek]

Everything Obama has ever done has been pure politics. He has nothing in common with the average ordinary individual.

Same for many other Presidents, including Reagan and Bush Jr.

I thought Bush Jr. was as middle America as you can get with his cowboy attire and stuttering.

Other than the whole being born into a millionaire family with political family members who had already reached high office.

I'm so jealous of him. Look his father worked hard for that fortune. And I bet that in Crawford, TX if someone lost their job or couldn't afford food for their family, Bush knew them by name. That's alot more than big government liberals have to offer.