Question about this game

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Cant respond now but would like to later. Great question.

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My idea was to establish the Council of Atlasian Regional Executives (CARE) as a real government panel that would more seriously address the consequences of legislation and decide how the regions should "execute" laws. The Secretary of Internal Affairs continues to be a useless position because there is no formal way to liaise with the regions. What's more, his job, if done properly, is really too big for one person to do. As it stands, if the SoIA were actually doing his job, he'd pretty much be doing it in total obscurity; the truth is, right now, the job doesn't matter.

If CARE were to actually become a working body, we could revitalize the regions, more clearly link both levels of government, and begin to look at the "nitty gritty" of what federal bills actually accomplish. The vice president could chair the panel as a representative of the federal government, which would immediately give the vice president more responsibilities (another issue in the game). Regional legislatures could work with their regional executives to craft proposals for CARE. The feds are giving the regions some money for mass transit? All right, let's give the regions a way to collaborate.

We spent so much time talking about how terrible the regions are, but to me, they have so much potential. Unfortunately, I've proposed this idea a number of times in conversation and no one seems interested. But I agree that we don't often see the consequences of the policies we enact. It would be good to change that.

I agree w/ NC Yankee, it is difficult. Hagrid, have you seen my proposed Game Engine Team or a bicameral senate? I think your idea, while interesting, is a conflict of interest because it has Regional Executives on it and they have something to gain in the process (or lose).

My Game Engine Team proposal eliminates the SOIA and divides the GM responsibility up so that the job isn't as overwhelming or tedious --thats the goal anyway. It also tries to remove the GM and his or her subordinates from the political process. My hope is that the "regional" GMs will be taken more seriously as they have less responsibility (than one GM for the whole game with no team support) and will be able to engage the regions easier.

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My idea was to establish the Council of Atlasian Regional Executives (CARE) as a real government panel that would more seriously address the consequences of legislation and decide how the regions should "execute" laws. The Secretary of Internal Affairs continues to be a useless position because there is no formal way to liaise with the regions. What's more, his job, if done properly, is really too big for one person to do. As it stands, if the SoIA were actually doing his job, he'd pretty much be doing it in total obscurity; the truth is, right now, the job doesn't matter.

If CARE were to actually become a working body, we could revitalize the regions, more clearly link both levels of government, and begin to look at the "nitty gritty" of what federal bills actually accomplish. The vice president could chair the panel as a representative of the federal government, which would immediately give the vice president more responsibilities (another issue in the game). Regional legislatures could work with their regional executives to craft proposals for CARE. The feds are giving the regions some money for mass transit? All right, let's give the regions a way to collaborate.

We spent so much time talking about how terrible the regions are, but to me, they have so much potential. Unfortunately, I've proposed this idea a number of times in conversation and no one seems interested. But I agree that we don't often see the consequences of the policies we enact. It would be good to change that.

I agree w/ NC Yankee, it is difficult. Hagrid, have you seen my proposed Game Engine Team or a bicameral senate? I think your idea, while interesting, is a conflict of interest because it has Regional Executives on it and they have something to gain in the process (or lose).

My Game Engine Team proposal eliminates the SOIA and divides the GM responsibility up so that the job isn't as overwhelming or tedious --thats the goal anyway. It also tries to remove the GM and his or her subordinates from the political process. My hope is that the "regional" GMs will be taken more seriously as they have less responsibility (than one GM for the whole game with no team support) and will be able to engage the regions easier.

Bicameral legislature you mean? Be kind of weird to have two senates.

How would the regional GM's be selected?

Yes, bicameral legislature. They would be selected by the GM with Senate approval. President would only select the GM with Senate approval. I've outlined it in my campaign thread.

Whether's CARE or this plan that Sirnick's talking about could work, provided we can get enough to agree with the details of one or the other obviously.


Also Sirnick, I really don't see what the conflict of interest would be since Regional Execs do have an interest, but that very interest seemingly aligns with their charge under the CARE proposal, which as I understand it is designing the mechanics in a way that best works for their region.

I was reading quickly so I could have msised something, but it looked like the Regional Executives would more or less form a committee to determine how legislation ultimately effects the regions which is a conflict of interest...because they'd be determining how their own legacy is formed --or how much their agenda costs in the end?

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My bicameral legislature proposal does link the regions to the federal government. That was my goal. Regional executives would make up the upper house of the legislature while the current Senate would be the lower house. Albeit my proposal gives the upper house very limited powers

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I don't see how any of this addresses the underlying problems of this game. No matter how active the GM is, elected officials won't pay any more attention to them than suits their own purpose. There has to be some mechanism to punish people for doing dumb sh!t.

The problem you want us to solve, is the same problem in reality