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H. Ross Peron
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Junior Chimp
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« on: May 17, 2021, 04:03:07 PM »

I think you would see mass mobilisation of pro-choice Americans and a mass drain of demographic and economic drain from states where there would be default anti-choice legislation.



So, Ohio, West Virginia, Missouri, Iowa are doomed economically?

I think states with punitive abortion law will see both economic boycotts and a drain of young people. Women have much more social mobility than they did pre Roe.

'Big Pro-Life' is well connected and powerful but it is not popular. Repealing Roe ends the grift.

This is a silly fantasy. Some states with restrictive abortion laws such as Mississippi already have very few clinics not accessible to large swathes of the population. Despite that, you aren't seeing mass migrations of people for reasons of lack of accessible abortion services. As others pointed out, people simply don't move for ideological reasons short of actual persecution for your beliefs.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2021, 04:06:05 PM »

I think you would see mass mobilisation of pro-choice Americans and a mass drain of demographic and economic drain from states where there would be default anti-choice legislation.



So, Ohio, West Virginia, Missouri, Iowa are doomed economically?

Certainly not! Those states are doing fantastic now. Every day one of my friends at the bagel shop says, boy, I can't wait til my number comes up and I can move to Huntington, WV or Branson, MO!


Glad to see "socialists" express contempt for economically deprived areas.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2021, 04:07:28 PM »

I think you would see mass mobilisation of pro-choice Americans and a mass drain of demographic and economic drain from states where there would be default anti-choice legislation.



So, Ohio, West Virginia, Missouri, Iowa are doomed economically?

I think states with punitive abortion law will see both economic boycotts and a drain of young people. Women have much more social mobility than they did pre Roe.

'Big Pro-Life' is well connected and powerful but it is not popular. Repealing Roe ends the grift.

This is a silly fantasy. Some states with restrictive abortion laws such as Mississippi already have very few clinics not accessible to large swathes of the population. Despite that, you aren't seeing mass migrations of people for reasons of lack of accessible abortion services. As others pointed out, people simply don't move for ideological reasons short of actual persecution for your beliefs.

I think the difference is that some of these states are moving to consider abortion as murder/homicide. Current abortion restrictions aren't even close to what some of these states are attempting to do.

Yes but the Court's decision (given it will rely on Roberts and Kavanaugh) is going to be an incremental one that allows abortion restrictions at 15 weeks not a decision that allows prosecution for abortion as murder.
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H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,401
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2021, 04:26:23 PM »

You know the Supreme Court made a horrible mistake when even a restriction down to 15 weeks would still put the US well to the left of a lot of European countries.

It is true that lots of European countries have abortion laws that are on paper far more restrictive than the US's, but it's also true that: 1-Those laws are seldom enforced and/or 2-Often have a ton of loopholes in them making them de facto comparable to the US.

Also abortions are often funded by the healthcare system. Otoh, abortion *rates* are lower than in the US.
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