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« Reply #75 on: March 17, 2014, 04:48:24 AM »

Godwin ought to become an infractable offense.

Under the circumstances, I woul not have expected this from a Pole.


Considering your amazing grasp on reality, I'm actually relieved to heard that.

I am afraid, you are playing an ostrich here, hiding from reality.

Today, they are telling me, Russian TV was broadcasting details about how Russia could completely nuke the US off the face of the Earth (I cannot force myself to watch, so I am reduced to saying "they are telling me").  The rapidity with which hysterical fascism becomes the new Russian norm is shocking. Weimar Russia is over, I am afraid.

I'm surprised such a smart guy like you suddenly cannot go beyond narrow, cliche comparisons.

I don't know what exactly are you getting from this, but I hope it feels good.
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« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2014, 12:35:35 PM »

Trans-Dniester now wants in, logistically that would be harder obviously without anschluss of Odessa oblast first.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26627236

Not the first time Transnistria expressed such interest.
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« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2014, 05:03:34 PM »

Guys, Estonia is in NATO. This is just making noises.

Ukraine is still the place of actual events.
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« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2014, 11:30:56 AM »

I'm quite amused with the Russian pulling out a Kosovo precedent (which they opposed so strongly), considering their action was pretty much a naked annexation. The whole "declaration of independence for a few hours before merging" wouldn't fool a second grader.

And that's coming from someone who was highly sceptical about the way Kosovo seceded.

This comment on Estonia is just what it is : Putin trolling the West hard saying "I did f[inks] you in the ass hard, didn't I ?"

Yep. It's not like the Russians weren't making a loud noises about Estonia before.
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« Reply #79 on: March 21, 2014, 09:45:40 AM »

France is ready to send fighters and AWACS to Poland and Baltic countries.
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« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2014, 08:53:24 AM »

Living at the moment quite close to the eastern border, I can see and hear NATO fighters flying every day. 


Well, that'd be much harder than pulling Crimea.
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« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2014, 08:09:41 AM »

It appears Donetsk has just proclaimed their own sanctions, prohibiting Obama, Merkel and Ashton from entering.

Obama is going to be CRUSHED!
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« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2014, 02:02:57 PM »

Czechoslovakia comparison has one key flaw. There were no nuclear weapons back in the 1930s. If  you think you can have a NATO-Russia clash without someone, at some point, pushing the button, then you're delusional. That's why Putin won't be invading any NATO member state. That's why NATO won't intervene militarily in Ukraine.

I see that for some of you the only sign of "action" would be blowing something up, and whatever  NATO, or the United States, or the European Union are doing, you'd be screaming about appeasement, but there are still many other avenues to stand up to Putin and help Ukraine without playing out to certain posters apocalyptic fantasies. 



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« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2014, 04:00:21 PM »

Czechoslovakia comparison has one key flaw. There were no nuclear weapons back in the 1930s. If  you think you can have a NATO-Russia clash without someone, at some point, pushing the button, then you're delusional. That's why Putin won't be invading any NATO member state. That's why NATO won't intervene militarily in Ukraine.

I see that for some of you the only sign of "action" would be blowing something up, and whatever  NATO, or the United States, or the European Union are doing, you'd be screaming about appeasement, but there are still many other avenues to stand up to Putin and help Ukraine without playing out to certain posters apocalyptic fantasies.  


I do not want anything blown up - whether with conventional weapons, or with nuclear. Most of all, I do not want Moscow bombed - I have family there. It is precisely because of this, that I firmly believe in most severe non-military measures: these have to be adopted ASAP. Putin should understand that he is facing people who are willing to make it very painful for him, even if it is very costly for them. And if he does not understand this, then those around him should understand it well enough to get rid of him. The half-measures that have been taken up till now make him believe that he is dealing with a bunch of pussies, who will not dare to stop him. Because of this, he will continue pushing forward - until he hits that red line that makes military conflict inevitable. He should be stopped before that - not there. Because once you get to the line, it is too late.

I'm very glad we're in agreement on this.

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That is true, however, neither Allies not Axis had a capability of whipping out entire nations by pushing the button. We're living with the nuclear weapons for almost 70 years now and during that time, the humanity faced crisies of far greater magnitude than current Ukraine crisis, yet no one ever dared to cross the line (and it's not like people with cool heads were always in charge).
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« Reply #84 on: September 08, 2014, 03:13:44 PM »


Why is Austria supporting a Nazi-loving apartheid states? Sad
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