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WalterWhite
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« on: October 09, 2023, 09:43:23 PM »

Full citizenship to Palestinians and acknowledge Israel is the homeland of Jews and Arabs. The only way forward is assimilation between both ethnic groups under a new identity. Oh and defeat Hamas if it isn't obvious.
Religious differences are going to prevent Palestinians (who are mainly Muslim) and Israelis (who are mainly Jewish) from assimilating with each other completely.
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2023, 09:50:42 PM »


In other news...AverageFoodEnthusiast becomes the dictator of the areas once formerly known as Israel and Palestine. Their first act will be to replace every politician in the current Israeli and Palestinian governments with other food enthusiasts.
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2023, 10:49:01 PM »

At this point there are no good, average, or even bad long term solutions. Anything that's going to be considered now will be horrific. Also what is a three state solution?
Probably the West Bank, Israel, and the Gaza Strip being separate countries
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2023, 12:38:00 AM »

If a 2-state solution is off the table, a temporary 31-state solution might honestly be the next best solution. This solution will take time, but it might honestly be the one that minimizes deaths.

Phase I: 31-state solution

Abolish the current Israeli and Palestinian states. In their places, establish the following 31 countries, whose borders are based on either Israeli subdivisions or Palestinian governorates. In parentheses are the Israeli subdivisions or Palestinian governorates the country will control.

- Republic of West Jerusalem (Jerusalem District)
- Republic of East Jerusalem (Jerusalem Governorate)
- Republic of Safed (Safed Subdivision)
- Republic of Kinneret (Kinneret Subdivision)
- Republic of Jezreel (Jezreel Subdivision)
- Republic of Acre (Acre Subdivision)
- Republic of Haifa (Haifa Subdivision)
- Republic of Hadera (Hadera Subdivision)
- Republic of HaSharon (HaSharon Subdivision)
- Republic of Petah Tikva (Petah Tikva Subdivision)
- Republic of Ramla (Ramla Subdivision)
- Republic of Rehovot (Rehovot Subdivision)
- Republic of Tel Aviv (Tel Aviv Subdivision)
- Republic of Ashkelon (Ashkelon Subdivision)
- Republic of Beersheba (Beersheba Subdivision)
- Republic of Jenin (Jenin Governorate)
- Republic of Tubas (Tubas Governorate)
- Republic of Tulkarm (Tulkarm Governorate)
- Republic of Nablus (Nablus Governorate)
- Republic of Qalqilya (Qalqilya Governorate)
- Republic of Salfit (Salfit Governorate)
- Republic of Ramallah and al-Bireh (Ramallah and al-Bireh Governorate)
- Republic of Jericho (Jericho Governorate)
- Republic of Bethlehem (Bethlehem Governorate)
- Republic of Hebron (Hebron Governorate)
- Republic of North Gaza (North Gaza Governorate)
- Republic of Gaza (Gaza Governorate)
- Republic of Deir al-Balah (Deir al-Balah Governorate)
- Republic of Khan Yunis (Khan Yunis Governorate)
- Republic of Rafah (Rafah Governorate)

During this stage, the following measures will be taken to ensure the territorial integrity of the states:

- United Nations, American, Russian, Saudi, and Iranian soldiers will be initially stationed across the borders of these countries. Over time, these will be replaced by local soldiers.
- To ensure a foreign power, such as Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, or Egypt, does not try to annex any of these countries and gain an influence in the region, there will be significantly more soldiers stationed across the borders between these countries and outside countries.
- All 31 countries will be admitted into the United Nations.

Phase II: 30-state solution and initial referendum

After a period of time, begin the reunification process. At this stage, the Republics of West Jerusalem and East Jerusalem will be combined into the United Nations Protectorate of Jerusalem, bringing the total country county in the area from 31 to 30.

Afterwards, hold referenda in each country on the question of reunification. The ballot question should look something as follows:

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With regards to the United Nations Protectorate of Jerusalem; and the Republics of Safed, Kinneret, Jezreel, Acre, Haifa, Hadera, HaSharon, Petah Tikva, Ramla, Rehvoot, Tel Aviv, Ashkelon, Beersheba, Jenin, Tubas, Tulkarm, Nablus, Qalqilya, Salfit, Ramallah and al-Bireh, Jericho, Bethlehem, Hebron, North Gaza, Gaza, Deir al-Balah, Khan Yunis, and Rafah: which of the following options do you support?
(1) Reunification of all countries into a single country
(2) Unification of the countries, except for the United Nations Protectorate of Jerusalem, into a Palestinian and an Israeli country
(3) Separation of all 30 countries

If Option (2) won, would you support your country joining a Palestinian country or an Israeli country? [NOT AVALIABLE FOR BALLOTS IN THE UNITED NATIONS PROTECTORATE OF JERUSALEM]
(a) Palestinian
(b) Israeli

If Option 1 wins the plurality of voters throughout the 30 countries, all 30 countries get admitted into a unified state as provinces.

If Option 2 wins the plurality of voters throughout the 30 countries, the countries that opted to join Palestine would join Palestine and the countries that opted to join Israel would join Israel. The United Nations Protectorate of Jerusalem would remain neutral.

If Option 3 wins the plurality of voters throughout the 30 countries, all 30 countries remain independent, and the United Nations Protectorate of Jerusalem would become the Republic of Jerusalem.

Phase III: Continued referenda

If Option 3 won the initial vote, referenda will keep being conducted indefinitely every 5 years until either Options 1 or 2 win the plurality of voters.
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2023, 04:26:03 PM »

We should wait for the war in Gaza to end before we discuss this.

However, with how systemic the violence in Israel and Palestine is, our best bet would be to start from scratch. At a bare minimum, we should abolish the current Israeli and Palestinian governments. A temporary 31-state solution (like the one I described earlier) with the possibility of a 30-state, 2-state, or 1-state solution in the future might be our best bet.
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2023, 04:20:00 AM »

I have been credibly informed that there are anarchists who are calling for a zero-state solution. Many people are saying this.
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