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« on: March 12, 2024, 03:27:19 PM »

As long as this issue hurts Biden, I am fine. I am not actually that opposed to immigration.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2024, 03:30:19 PM »

It's still a losing issue for Democrats as most voters don't care about statistics. It's more about vibes, feeling and perceptions. Basically the same with studies showing the US economy would be doing worse without immigrants.

What would help is Biden hammering Republicans on a border security deal and try to do more via executive action. In the long run, only comprehensive immigration reform can address or resolve the issue.
The problem is that immigration massively surged under Biden's watch and was at much lower levels under Trump's watch.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2024, 04:11:18 PM »

It's still a losing issue for Democrats as most voters don't care about statistics. It's more about vibes, feeling and perceptions. Basically the same with studies showing the US economy would be doing worse without immigrants.

What would help is Biden hammering Republicans on a border security deal and try to do more via executive action. In the long run, only comprehensive immigration reform can address or resolve the issue.

I understand that the median American will never truly believe that illegal immigrants make the country wealthier and safer, but it is frustrating when daily posters on talkelections dot org who have eaten of the proverbial tree of knowledge parrot the same internally inconsistent and/or factually incorrect opinions on immigration. I honestly have more respect for straight-up racists on this issue, because at least they are actually correct that immigration makes the country less white, so if you want a more white country then limiting immigration makes sense. It doesn't make sense if your concern is about crime or taxes or whatever.

What's inconsistent about trying to end illegal immigration in favor of legal immigration? I know it's difficult to accomplish both on political and practical matters, though it seems like a rational stance that even most of the public would support. In a way, democratic (small d) governments must factor in public opinions because they rely on it.
I support more immigration to reduce inflation but idk if the public does anymore. The argument that they are taking our jobs is supported by recent employment statistics - native workers have lost jobs since prepandemic while all the job growth has gone to immigrants.
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