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« on: February 07, 2024, 01:57:53 PM »



Really bad for Biden's odds
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2024, 03:19:25 PM »

Israel just expanded their war to Rafah

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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2024, 03:27:06 PM »


Really bad for Biden's odds

Imagine actually believing this will hurt Biden Roll Eyes
The point is that there is no ceasefire like Biden is trying to push for. Usually each side underestimates the time it will take until victory, so the war will likely last quite long (with the Red Sea blocked and Iran fighting a proxy war against American in other countries as well).
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2024, 03:30:20 PM »


Really bad for Biden's odds

Imagine actually believing this will hurt Biden Roll Eyes
The point is that there is no ceasefire like Biden is trying to push for. Usually each side underestimates the time it will take until victory, so the war will likely last quite long (with the Red Sea blocked and Iran fighting a proxy war against American in other countries as well).

If the Red Sea is blocked, then the best thing Biden could do for his re-election odds is to unblock it with force.
He has already tried and failed. The blocked Red Sea means more inflation, which also causes higher interest rates and lower stock prices eventually.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2024, 04:09:05 PM »


Really bad for Biden's odds

Imagine actually believing this will hurt Biden Roll Eyes
The point is that there is no ceasefire like Biden is trying to push for. Usually each side underestimates the time it will take until victory, so the war will likely last quite long (with the Red Sea blocked and Iran fighting a proxy war against American in other countries as well).

If the Red Sea is blocked, then the best thing Biden could do for his re-election odds is to unblock it with force.
He has already tried and failed. The blocked Red Sea means more inflation, which also causes higher interest rates and lower stock prices eventually.
Why more inflation? Very few goods come to the US via the Suez Canal
1.Container freight indices, even from China to US and Rotterdam to US, have doubled.

2.Supply chain issues cause shortages, which leads to higher prices.
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2024, 08:50:15 PM »

Biden: Please end the war, it's hurting my reelection chances.

Blinken: We are so close to a ceasefire deal. We are making progress.

Qatar: Hamas responded positively, and we're about to get a deal.

Netanyahu the next day: Invades Rafah
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2024, 09:03:29 PM »

Biden: Please end the war, it's hurting my reelection chances.

Blinken: We are so close to a ceasefire deal. We are making progress.

Qatar: Hamas responded positively, and we're about to get a deal.

Netanyahu the next day: Invades Rafah

Hey, quick question, what was in Hamas' offer of a ceasefire deal?
135 days, release of some terrorist prisoners, 3 phases of 45 days each where in the last phase Israel must commit to a permanent ceasefire. About 1 Israelite released per day. 1400 total Palestinian prisoners released.

Israel wanted somewhere around 45 days total for the ceasefire, and didn't want to release some terrorists.

I'm not really taking a side, but it is very humiliating for Biden.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2024, 12:17:28 AM »

Biden: Please end the war, it's hurting my reelection chances.

Blinken: We are so close to a ceasefire deal. We are making progress.

Qatar: Hamas responded positively, and we're about to get a deal.

Netanyahu the next day: Invades Rafah

Hey, quick question, what was in Hamas' offer of a ceasefire deal?
135 days, release of some terrorist prisoners, 3 phases of 45 days each where in the last phase Israel must commit to a permanent ceasefire. About 1 Israelite released per day. 1400 total Palestinian prisoners released.

Israel wanted somewhere around 45 days total for the ceasefire, and didn't want to release some terrorists.

I'm not really taking a side, but it is very humiliating for Biden.

Anyone whose seen your posts knows that's not true.
I'm anti-Biden, but am not invested in any side in the Israel/Gaza war.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2024, 12:48:51 PM »

Netanyahu is not sending a delegation to the Cairo talks today.
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2024, 08:18:20 PM »

Netanyahu is not sending a delegation to the Cairo talks today.

Not that im a Netanyahu fan, but he's clearly playing hardball. The sticking point right now is the amount of prisoners Hamas is demanding be released. If there's a breakthrough on that, then Israel will send the delegation back.
Netanyahu probably isn’t actually interested in a deal. As soon as there is a pause, there will be new elections.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2024, 11:20:02 PM »

Egypt is now building a 8 square mile fence to handle refugees if and when Israel begins its ground operations in Rafah.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/egypt-builds-walled-enclosure-on-border-as-israeli-offensive-looms-e5c12043
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« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2024, 07:17:48 PM »

When Israel invades Rafah, Biden will once again be the fall guy, just like he was for inflation.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2024, 09:01:07 AM »

When Israel invades Rafah, Biden will once again be the fall guy, just like he was for inflation.

If that happens. It may not at this rate. Israel still hasn't fully secured the rest of Gaza.
Netanyahu has to drag out the war as long as possible to stay in power.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2024, 05:29:59 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2024, 06:22:44 PM by The Economy is Getting Worse »

Biden's response to this all since October has been an unmitigated disaster. His confident proclamation this week that a truce was coming ended up as a nothingness and he's still unwilling to act like the leader of tge superpower he is. He's protecting Netanyahu while killing his reelection chances
His proclamation wasn’t confident, he just said he hoped for one, while licking an ice cream and confused.
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2024, 11:37:18 PM »

Great stuff. This will help the Biden-Harris ticket with the base. Now we just need Joe to come along. This reminds me of 2012 when Biden came out for gay marriage.

There is 0% chance Harris says this without Biden's okay. This is clearly going to be part of a messaging pivot.

Maybe, but it still has to come out of the big guy's mouth. Also, if it comes apart after six weeks that'll be a problem. The goal should be for Biden to eventually call for an indefinite cease-fire.
He already seems to be calling for a Palestinian state. Netanyahu doesn’t care what Biden thinks.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2024, 08:29:17 AM »

Great stuff. This will help the Biden-Harris ticket with the base. Now we just need Joe to come along. This reminds me of 2012 when Biden came out for gay marriage.

There is 0% chance Harris says this without Biden's okay. This is clearly going to be part of a messaging pivot.

This.

It is clear that the US has had enough of Netanyahu prolonging the war just to stay in power.
Good, Biden will lose the Jewish vote too.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2024, 09:11:52 AM »

Great stuff. This will help the Biden-Harris ticket with the base. Now we just need Joe to come along. This reminds me of 2012 when Biden came out for gay marriage.

There is 0% chance Harris says this without Biden's okay. This is clearly going to be part of a messaging pivot.

Netanyahu will tell Biden when he is ready for a ceasefire, and then Biden will claim credit for it.  Not sure when that is going to be though. 
Netanyahu will drag the war for as long as possible. Netanyahu is done politically as soon as there is a ceasefire.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2024, 09:13:25 AM »

Jews who vote for Trump deserve what is coming to them (as does everyone else who does this)

Are *you* voting for Orange Man to totally destroy America?

I am voting against Biden, not for Trump. If you want a chance of beating Trump, replace Biden with someone stronger. I would probably vote third party even if the nominee were Harris.
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