Ben Shapiro burns Barbies

[oldtimer]

There's no reason to assume that the vast majority of them didn't. Having seen The Last Jedi, the only thing I find surprising about the audience score is that it isn't 0%. And the fact that RT "recalibrated" its audience scores in order to be lenient towards megacorporate products like these is hardly something to celebrate.

"The Last Jedi was a bad movie" and "The Last Jedi was review-bombed by terminally online misogynistic weirdos" are not mutually exclusive from each other.

I think we forgot the premise of movies:

To make money by entertaining people.

The Disney Star Wars movies promised a lot and didn't deliver much.

It's not that it would be that difficult to fix it.

I had an idea that they could simply to reintroduce the soap opera idea of having a secret twin brother of the evil protagonist.
But immune to the force and all it's magic, and had to make it with his own brains and brawns. Something like what Han Solo was in the original but with the brother twist.

[oldtimer]

Why are we talking exclusively about the Last Jedi? It's not like these limp-dicked sexist morons don't hate movies which otherwise were well-reviewed and uncontroversial.

Because everyone was warned about it years before it came into existance, I remember South Park did entire episodes about Disney ruining Star Wars back in 2012.

[oldtimer]

Why are we talking exclusively about the Last Jedi? It's not like these limp-dicked sexist morons don't hate movies which otherwise were well-reviewed and uncontroversial.

Because everyone was warned about it years before it came into existance, I remember South Park did entire episodes about Disney ruining Star Wars back in 2012.

Kathleen Kennedy's mistake was the she didn't gather her handpicked directors one weekend at a resort where they'd hammer out an outline for the new trilogy: where the heroes would be at the start and where they'd be at the end along with a general plot. Instead she let them do whatever they wanted which resulted in chaos and conflicting storylines.
That was what ruined the new trilogy, not increased representation of women and minorities like these online bozos suggest.

Or simply that Star Wars was supposed to be a Grand Wagnerian Space Soap Opera.

But those are designed to conclude on the 3rd Act or 3rd Movie.

Anything more would just make it into a TV series, where you would need to find extra material that wouldn't be that good.

That's how Indiana Jones was sunk too, rarely going over movie no.3 works unless the source material is already there (like in a book or rejected script).

The rival to Star Wars, Star Trek, is a perfect example of not setting expectations too high, because it is a TV show that jumps to the movies on occation for what feels like a special episode.

And it works most of the time because there is tons of source material from the TV show.

[oldtimer]

I sure am glad this thread about Barbie turned into 6 pages of arguing over why The Last Jedi sucked and whether movies can be ""objectively bad"" or not.

Come to think of it, even if this thread were to have stayed on topic, why would it even be in USGD in the first place?

Because Barbie is for little girls, and Star Wars for old boys.

[oldtimer]

https://twitter.com/jayblackisfunny/status/1685332777393111041

Of course Barbie would have made money.

It's an aleady known brand for millions and millions of 6 year old girls, who will nag their parents to see it and they will say "why not, it's only a Barbie Doll".

Same demographic as Frozen, but the merchandising came first.

[oldtimer]

https://twitter.com/jayblackisfunny/status/1685332777393111041

Of course Barbie would have made money.

It's an aleady known brand for millions and millions of 6 year old girls, who will nag their parents to see it and they will say "why not, it's only a Barbie Doll".

Same demographic as Frozen, but the merchandising came first.

Wow. It's almost like the audiences who gave it overwhelming reviews leading to increased box office traffic all must have fallen asleep at the beginning of the movie and just reported about a dream they had instead.

Let me put it this way:

If the movie wasn't called Barbie and the script had no Barbie names in it, would it have made money ?

Certainly less money.

It's all about the Brand, like the Star Wars prequels-sequels, or designer products.

Some people just buy the logo on a product, regardless of product quality.

[oldtimer]

https://twitter.com/jayblackisfunny/status/1685332777393111041

Of course Barbie would have made money.

It's an aleady known brand for millions and millions of 6 year old girls, who will nag their parents to see it and they will say "why not, it's only a Barbie Doll".

Same demographic as Frozen, but the merchandising came first.

Wow. It's almost like the audiences who gave it overwhelming reviews leading to increased box office traffic all must have fallen asleep at the beginning of the movie and just reported about a dream they had instead.

Let me put it this way:

If the movie wasn't called Barbie and the script had no Barbie names in it, would it have made money ?

Certainly less money.

It's all about the Brand, like the Star Wars prequels-sequels, or designer products.

Some people just buy the logo on a product, regardless of product quality.

How many movies are based on a brand like that? Every superhero film? Every film based on it comic book or a video game? Every movie based on a TV series? The list goes on and on and on. How many of those have all flopped despite strong brand recognition?

This is a vastly over simplistic explanation.

Lately you have Sonic, Super Mario, Pikatsu, you could say a cheap way for a quick buck.

Same script but no Brand might have bombed, like when Oogieloves tried to be Teletubies without using their name.

It doesn't hurt basing a movie out of a Brand, it's bad for creativity though, and no guarantees  if the production sucks (Star Wars sequels-prequels).

Now a movie based on a Brand and with a good production, that's one big goldmine like Harry Potter.