PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[oldtimer]

Lol remember how some conservatives wet saying he was a puppet candidate for his wife

His medical condition means that he is really likely to die before he finishes his first term, I  read that average life expectancy is 2 years (Senators though get better healthcare), so it's all about who will the Governor appoint.

I doubt his replacement will have his working class charisma.

[oldtimer]

Lol remember how some conservatives wet saying he was a puppet candidate for his wife

His medical condition means that he is really likely to die before he finishes his first term, I  read that average life expectancy is 2 years (Senators though get better healthcare), so it's all about who will the Governor appoint.

I doubt his replacement will have his working class charisma.

Citation needed.

Didn't take me long to find a report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558350/

61.5% mortality for men 55-74 within 10 years, however Fetterman is very very obese and he's suffered severly already at just the age of 53, so probably the 50/50 is way less than 8 years, so the 2-3 years for 50/50 I read in the Autumn about Fetterman is probably correct.

The Senate though provides excellent healthcare so his lifespan ought to be extended beyond the expected, 6 years though might be a bridge too far even with Senate Healthcare.

[oldtimer]

Lol remember how some conservatives wet saying he was a puppet candidate for his wife

His medical condition means that he is really likely to die before he finishes his first term, I  read that average life expectancy is 2 years (Senators though get better healthcare), so it's all about who will the Governor appoint.

I doubt his replacement will have his working class charisma.

Citation needed.

Didn't take me long to find a report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4558350/

61.5% mortality for men 55-74 within 10 years, however Fetterman is very very obese and he's suffered severly already at just the age of 53, so probably the 50/50 is way less than 8 years, so the 2-3 years for 50/50 I read in the Autumn about Fetterman is probably correct.

The Senate though provides excellent healthcare so his lifespan ought to be extended beyond the expected, 6 years though might be a bridge too far even with Senate Healthcare.

Where are you getting Fetterman is “obese” to the point of detrimental health. He’s large sure but “obese” rarely has detrimental health and is grossly over used as it’s often based on the very fault BMI metric

Fetterman weighted 418 pounds, that's about 1/5th of a metric Ton.

For an easy visual comparison:
The fat guy at Jurassic Park weighted only 327 pounds.
The Homer Simpson mumu thing was 315 pounds.

[oldtimer]

Where are you getting Fetterman is “obese” to the point of detrimental health. He’s large sure but “obese” rarely has detrimental health and is grossly over used as it’s often based on the very fault BMI metric

Fetterman weighted 418 pounds, that's about 1/5th of a metric Ton.

For an easy visual comparison:
The fat guy at Jurassic Park weighted only 327 pounds.
The Homer Simpson mumu thing was 315 pounds.

Fictional characters (one of whom is a cartoon) are always good for real-life comparisons.

Visual comparisons so that's easily understood even by kids, and the actor was really 327 pounds at that time.

[oldtimer]

If Fetterman's health is really that bad and he knows he has a very high chance of death at some point, would he just voluntarily retire, and can Shapiro pretty much appoint anyone he wants without consent of the legislature?

Again, I don't like speculating on people's health we really just don't know as it's a very personal subject. Someone can appear fine on the outside but be very sick and at high risk of death and vise-versa where they seem loopy but are at low risk of death anytime soon.

In Pennsylvania the Governor appoints the replacement for the remainder of the term.

That's why I regarded the Governor's race as more important once the senate primary showed that Fetterman was going to win.

[oldtimer]

Why was Oz considered a weak candidate? He outperformed Mastriano by 10!

Oz never had a chance from primary night onwards because of the following things:

1.Pennsylvania from past election results likes it's Governors to be Liberal and it's Senators to be Conservative (remember Santorum ?).

2.Oz was upper class, while Fetterman was working class.

3.Oz spent his entire campaign making fun of Fetterman being working class.

4.The primaries hit Oz hard for being a muslim, a big no-no for conservatives as primary results showed.

Oz would have made sense for Governor and Mastriano for Senator from a GOP perspective.

[oldtimer]

Why was Oz considered a weak candidate? He outperformed Mastriano by 10!

Oz never had a chance from primary night onwards because of the following things:

1.Pennsylvania from past election results likes it's Governors to be Liberal and it's Senators to be Conservative (remember Santorum ?).

2.Oz was upper class, while Fetterman was working class.

3.Oz spent his entire campaign making fun of Fetterman being working class.

4.The primaries hit Oz hard for being a muslim, a big no-no for conservatives as primary results showed.

Oz would have made sense for Governor and Mastriano for Senator from a GOP perspective.

I expect the Democrats would still have won both races.

Probably given what happened in all the other swing states, but the margings would have been way closer, and the republicans probably would have carried PA-7 and 8.

[oldtimer]

Why was Oz considered a weak candidate? He outperformed Mastriano by 10!

Oz never had a chance from primary night onwards because of the following things:

1.Pennsylvania from past election results likes it's Governors to be Liberal and it's Senators to be Conservative (remember Santorum ?).

2.Oz was upper class, while Fetterman was working class.

3.Oz spent his entire campaign making fun of Fetterman being working class.

4.The primaries hit Oz hard for being a muslim, a big no-no for conservatives as primary results showed.

Oz would have made sense for Governor and Mastriano for Senator from a GOP perspective.

I expect the Democrats would still have won both races.

Probably given what happened in all the other swing states, but the margings would have been way closer, and the republicans probably would have carried PA-7 and 8.

What about the 17th?

Pittsburgh has drifted Democrat while Philadelphia Republican in elections since 2017, so it would be unlikely for Democrats to lose a Pittsburgh seat.

[oldtimer]

Why was Oz considered a weak candidate? He outperformed Mastriano by 10!

2.Oz was upper class, while Fetterman was working class.

Oz was an out-of-touch weirdo who got rich by selling snake oil on daytime TV and thought he could parachute in and become a Senator for a state that he didn't even live in and had minimal ties to.

That didn't stop others from gaining political office in the past, it was the combination of the things I listed that doomed Oz.