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Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl
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« on: October 20, 2009, 11:34:55 AM »

Of course it is constitutional. The Constitution has no just authority over local schools.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 07:37:36 AM »

Rather, the public schools should just be shut down completely.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 06:32:32 PM »

Rather, the public schools should just be shut down completely.

Now that's just asking for serious trouble.
For the state, absolutely. Imagine all those children growing up capable of independent thought. A frightening prospect for a government built upon ignorance.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 01:54:00 AM »

So it would be better to go back to the days when almost nobody was educated at all?
I guess it's better to have only the rich and successful who can pay for school be able to achieve anything at all. We should just assign the people who can't pay for school to abject poverty for life.
No, it would be better to go back to the days when people actually were educated.

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The institution most responsible for the sorry state of the American populace today is "one of the best things about America"? I take it you're a public school grad?
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 01:54:54 AM »

Of course it is constitutional. The Constitution has no just authority over local schools.

Uh, no. Public schools are themselves unconstitutional; but as long as they exist (unconstitutionally), then it is also unconstitutional to teach Creationism in them.
As you have admitted, the mere existence of public schools is unconstitutional. What is "taught" in them is irrelevant to this fact.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 08:46:56 AM »

Stop deluding yourself.  You know for well that if it wasn't for state funded schools we'd still all be living in the 18th Century.
Interesting hypothesis. Can you explain the physics behind lack of state funded schools causing time to stand still?

Or are you just saying the calendars would never have been updated without state schools?

 
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No, they haven't.

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Perhaps that explains it then. Public schools do do a good job turning their victims into their most ardent defenders. A case of Stockholm syndrome maybe?

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No, I wish everyone knew how to read, write, and be able to properly use the English language, for example knowing the difference between "right" and "write." But I suppose that's an "anti-education sentiment."

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Yes, your coming in here to demonstrate my point is much appreciated.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 04:21:29 PM »

More to the point can you explain your lack of ability to work out what "figure of speech" means.
As expected, no explanation as to how lack of state-funded schools would have kept the world in the 18th century.

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Hey, what do you know, education IS unavailable to the masses and vast swathes of the population ARE illiterate.

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Not a single decent argument? Nice try, the arguments are all waiting for you when you're done reflexively defending your personal government schooling.

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Must have taken some finger acrobatics to have turned "write" into "right" via typographical error.

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That irrational and illogical nonsense is spoken like a true government schoolboy.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 07:29:01 AM »

No, people with brains.

Private schools across America, especially at the higher education level, will already attempt to match 100% of demonstrated financial aid need for accepted students. Not to mention the many merit scholarships available as well.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 07:31:32 AM »

My theory on Libertas here is that he himself was educated in a public school himself, and that something happened to him there that was so bad, I dunno, he could've failed an exam really badly, and he's now using the public education system as a scapegoat for his own failings.  Tongue
Those public school deduction skills really shining through there.

But no, I've never been in a government school in my life.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 04:12:32 PM »

Of course it is constitutional. The Constitution has no just authority over local schools.

Epic fail as usual, Libertas.

Supreme Court says no. Edwards v. Aguillard 482 U.S. 578 (1987)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=CASE&court=US&vol=482&page=578
The question asked by this thread was "Is teaching creationism in biology classes Constitutional?"

Not "Does the the Supreme Court think it is constitutional?"
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2009, 10:53:29 PM »

The question asked by this thread was "Is teaching creationism in biology classes Constitutional?"

Not "Does the the Supreme Court think it is constitutional?"

The SCOTUS is the final authority in these matters.

Silly me, I had thought it was the Constitution. I had forgotten that the U.S. is governed by dictatorship now.
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 02:43:27 PM »

For the state, absolutely. Imagine all those children growing up capable of independent thought. A frightening prospect for a government built upon ignorance.

In what school will you find students capable of "independent thought"?
Good question.
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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 11:05:45 PM »

Would teaching of Lamarckism be constitutional?

Or would teaching this be constitutional (I know, some people will have fun here):

Of course it would be constitutional, but it would clearly it would make more sense to teach about Lamarckism.
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