Hot take: Biden should pull a Fetterman and go all in on supporting Israel. (user search)
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Umengus
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« on: March 20, 2024, 04:26:29 AM »

"All in" is not a good approach unless the conflict is clearly right vs. wrong, like Ukraine vs. Russia. Sure, Hamas is much worse than the Israeli govt, of whom I'm no fan. Still, we shouldn't give Israel's govt and military a blanket check and spare of criticism where necessary. The numbers of civilian losses are too high and Israel hasn't done enough to prevent suffering (granted, Hamas uses them as human shields, so it's not it's solely on Israel).

Truth Israel also needs to change for establishing a permanent solution and peace. We should use our leverage to drastically move from their settlements policies, which are torpedoing any progress. That and existence of Hamas are the biggest obstacle imho.

conflict is clearly right vs wrong.
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Umengus
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 04:27:11 AM »

Honestly, at this point, the Pro-Hamas wing of the Democrat base is a lost cause. I'm talking about the "Uncommitted", heckling, protesting variety of voters. They think Biden is committing a genocide and there really is no way to win someone over who thinks that (after all, what's worse than a genocide?).

But, this also is a fringe minority of the electorate. They are loud, yes, but far from a majority. The vast majority of Americans, particularly moderates and independents, think October 7 was horrific and unjustified. They believe Israel has a right to defend itself and to exist. And they certainly do not support Hamas or have any sympathy for that cause.

As I said, Biden has nothing to lose at this point. But he has a way to lock up moderates and even some disaffected conservatives that will more than make up for the loss of the radical base. Case in point, John Fetterman's approval numbers have gone UP since he came out strongly in support of Israel.

you are right.
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