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Reactionary Libertarian
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« on: December 05, 2023, 01:29:48 AM »

Israel is creating a giant migrant crisis, and eventually the West will take the brunt of it.

Israel pushing its Palestinian problem onto the West would DESTROY right wing support for Israel faster than the left could scream “ethnic cleansing”.

The issue with expulsion is you need somewhere to expel them to and neither the other Arab states nor the West want to take them. The Palestinians are Israel’s problem alone.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2023, 08:50:14 PM »

You don't have to be a rose twitter leftist to think this is horrendous and a disaster waiting to happen. Also, maybe a uhh...war crime.

Yeah, if Syria wasn't bad enough, this would be even more destabilizing.

And does no one think that actions like this wouldn't radicalize at least some of those forcefully expelled? The terrorist propaganda writes itself. If your goal is to prevent more Hamas type groups... this likely would lead to the opposite.

Compromise plan for Israel - we settle the entire population of Palestine in US swing states and see how that goes for them.

This is exactly why Nakba II doesn’t work. The right would freak out more than the left. I find it really hard to believe there are Central European countries pushing for this- the refugees would end up in Europe, just like all refugees from MENA and Africa do. And the Arab world knows whichever country takes them will be destabilized.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2023, 08:54:48 PM »

Israel is creating a giant migrant crisis, and eventually the West will take the brunt of it.

Israel pushing its Palestinian problem onto the West would DESTROY right wing support for Israel faster than the left could scream “ethnic cleansing”.

The issue with expulsion is you need somewhere to expel them to and neither the other Arab states nor the West want to take them. The Palestinians are Israel’s problem alone.

I don't think they care. The Israelis seem pretty confident that Congress will accept their plan, they are being very bold about this. We don't really tell them no, outside of a few minor details, so I don't see why they won't also get their way here. The right wing support will drop, but it won't be instantaneous as the migrants won't be immediately expelled to the West. They're sending them to other failed states, and from there they will inevitably begin the journey.

This right here. Now maybe the US doesn’t care because we are an ocean away, but how on earth does Europe not go ballistic about this? Even if you assume the refugees didn’t immediately start heading to Europe, there is a very high probability they destabilize their host nation, causing an even larger refugee crisis that definitely ends up in Europe. If Israel does this plan how does Europe not threaten to go full BDS?
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