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Question: Well?
#1
No, I wouldn't even if he vetoed it
 
#2
No, I would vote third party
 
#3
No, this would cause me to vote for the Republican candidate
 
#4
No, I would stay at home
 
#5
Yes, I would still vote for him
 
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Author Topic: Will you vote for Obama if he signs SOPA into law?  (Read 11217 times)
Free Palestine
FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 30, 2011, 07:13:27 PM »

That's funny, I didn't know Human Rights Watch, Facebook, Google, the Wikimedia Foundation, Reporters Without Borders, and the ACLU were run by teenage boys.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 08:53:33 PM »

People who support SOPA shouldn't be allowed on this site/the internet at all.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2011, 01:43:13 AM »

Piracy is great.  You moralfriends are just too afraid of the internet police, and of the consequences never being the same.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2011, 03:30:33 PM »

Inks, there's no evidence that piracy (I don't use the word stealing because nothing is being stolen and I use the word piracy because pirates are awesome) is actually negatively impacting ABC's (or anyone else's) profits or its incentives to make new content. SOPA is addressing a problem that doesn't exist.

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2011/12/15/the_non_problem_of_online_piracy.html

And it wouldn't matter to me otherwise.  I'd love to see the music and movie industries collapse.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2011, 04:42:59 PM »

When you refuse to participate in file sharing, you aren't helping out the artists. You're helping out the music labels and media companies (the lion's share of profits don't go to bands or film makers) and destroying your chances of experiencing a really wide range of music (unless you're upper middle class). I buy music but file sharing is a great tool that lets me listen to it a few times to see if it's actually worth the purchase.

Forcing change upon these dinosaurs through file sharing alone makes it worth it.

And it's not like groups will go extinct if everyone illegally downloads -- the good ones won't, anyways.  A lot of groups make a lot of their money from touring or selling merchandise.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2011, 04:58:58 PM »

People who support SOPA really should go to the doctor and get a test to see if they have that brain-eating amoeba.

Seriously, do any of you fidgets know what the frikkin bill will do?  There's no way a sane person who doesn't support fascism could support that bill.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2011, 05:05:11 PM »

Again with this "fascism". Unless this bill supports the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and family policy, led by a supreme leader who exercises a dictatorship over the fascist movement, the government and other state institutions, it isn't fascism.

Well, putting up a PRC-esque firewall and forcing ISPs to block any sites that the government doesn't like sure does smack of fascism.  Totally f-cking over the whole "due process" thing, too, smacks of fascism.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2011, 07:10:26 PM »

I'm not opposed to this because I pirate music, I just don't understand why some people have such strong convictions against it in their personal lives. Public policy obviously should defend intellectual property but not in way that erodes due process and stifle innovation. It would increase overhead costs for companies in the name of protecting the profit margins for a much smaller sector of our economy. While I hate hyperbole (no, this bill won't shut down Facebook, conspiracy-mongers), I'd prefer to not give the government powers that trample over our civil liberties.

The trade off isn't worth it and it's blatant corporatism for Congress to create such draconian measures for the entertainment industry.

Indeed.  As I sort of touch on in a propaganda piece I plan on distributing in my community, this tramples on everyone's civil liberties to maybe protect jobs for like 1% of the population.
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