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Author Topic: Is "Compulsory National Service" a form of Slavery?  (Read 5655 times)
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FallenMorgan
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« on: October 14, 2010, 12:27:00 PM »

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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2010, 04:34:05 PM »

By compulsory national service, I meant the kind of thing proposed by Herr Rahm Emmanuel.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2010, 08:40:15 PM »
« Edited: October 14, 2010, 08:42:56 PM by Herp Derp »

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.

The only differences between what is proposed by the likes of Chuck Rangel and Rahm Emmanuel, and the historical institution of slavery, are that it's the government forcing you to work, rather than a plantation owner, and instead of being whipped or beaten, you are - I assume - fined or imprisoned.  It's still forced labor, and there are still consequences to refusing to do it.

I thought the Constitution was a "living document."  The Thirteenth Amendment outlaws "involuntary servitude," yet somehow only the historical interpretation applies.  Hm...
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2010, 09:38:53 PM »

You really are an offensive idiot. Congratulations on making opposition to peacetime conscription seem prickish; that takes some skill. And you have it.

No need to be a dick to me.
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 02:07:13 PM »

Is there a reason slavery is spelled with a capital S in the thread title?

Forgive my lack of understanding of proper capitalization in titles.  I barely knew what nouns, verbs, and adjectives were until fairly recently.

Winston makes a good point: many of this forum's fiercest opponents of mandatory community service are also this forum's fiercest supporters of wage slavery. Strange how that works out.

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 02:18:07 PM »

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.
Exactly.

I'd agree as well.  It started generations back, but I think the pendulum has swing too far to the individualism side of things in relation to a community orientated focus. I just think people really don't care about there neighbors anymore like people used to.

So we should force people to?
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 03:07:42 PM »

Winston makes a good point: many of this forum's fiercest opponents of mandatory community service are also this forum's fiercest supporters of wage slavery. Strange how that works out.

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Please elaborate as to what you find to be so funny.

"Wage slavery."  Hurrdurr
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FallenMorgan
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 03:19:47 PM »

Winston makes a good point: many of this forum's fiercest opponents of mandatory community service are also this forum's fiercest supporters of wage slavery. Strange how that works out.

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Please elaborate as to what you find to be so funny.

"Wage slavery."  Hurrdurr

There's not much funny about wage slavery really, unless you're one of the wage slaveowners.

Calling having to get a job in order to make money to pay your living expenses "slavery" is rather absurd.
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FallenMorgan
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 06:57:54 PM »

Winston makes a good point: many of this forum's fiercest opponents of mandatory community service are also this forum's fiercest supporters of wage slavery. Strange how that works out.

No, and calling it such is insulting to the millions of Americans who actually were slaves. The fact that having to do community service for a year is even being compared to actual slavery is disgusting, though not surprising, considering the white, middle-class suburbanite tilt of this forum.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Please elaborate as to what you find to be so funny.

"Wage slavery."  Hurrdurr

There's not much funny about wage slavery really, unless you're one of the wage slaveowners.

Calling having to get a job in order to make money to pay your living expenses "slavery" is rather absurd.

They're reliant on their boss in the same way slaves were reliant on their masters.

There's no coercion involved.
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