Why do creationists largely use only straw-man arguments?

[Devilman88]

That makes up at least 80% of their arguments from what I've noticed. Find me a single scientists who claims that you can get a dog by somehow combining a starfish and a grain of wheat.

What are you talking about?

[Devilman88]

He's talking about creationists misrepresenting the opinion of people that believe in evolution.

For example, I hear "I can't believe that humans evolved from apes" all the time from creationists, despite the fact that that claim isn't made by evolutionists.

Ah, the getting a dog out of a starfish and gain thing triped me up.

[Devilman88]

Once again, this displays simply clinging to the idea of god and not be able to let go. Have you ever thought why would god use such a process when he could just poof it into existence? Accept your fate, there's no fairytale life for the goody goodies, and no endless torment for the baddies.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but there is a Heaven and Hell.

[Devilman88]

Once again, this displays simply clinging to the idea of god and not be able to let go. Have you ever thought why would god use such a process when he could just poof it into existence? Accept your fate, there's no fairytale life for the goody goodies, and no endless torment for the baddies.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but there is a Heaven and Hell.

     Do you have an eyewitness account to offer of either or both (preferably both) places?

No, but do you have proof that Heaven and Hell are not real?

[Devilman88]

Once again, this displays simply clinging to the idea of god and not be able to let go. Have you ever thought why would god use such a process when he could just poof it into existence? Accept your fate, there's no fairytale life for the goody goodies, and no endless torment for the baddies.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but there is a Heaven and Hell.

     Do you have an eyewitness account to offer of either or both (preferably both) places?

No, but do you have proof that Heaven and Hell are not real?

Do you have proof that Heaven and Hell are real?

No, I just said that. But both sides have faith that they are right. This is how I look at it, if I am right them I'm going to heaven. If I'm wrong will then it will not matter because I will be dead in the ground and not know any better.

[Devilman88]

You cannot not say that because you can't prove the supernatural is isn't real, that it is equally valid to believing it is real. Because there is no evidence for it, rational thinkers will choose not to believe it.

That's like arresting me now and accusing me of murdering somebody who I didn't even know, and have no way to prove didn't happen.

Does that make it just as likely that I'm guilty as innocent?

Both sides can't prove of disprove Heaven or Hell. So why are we even talking about it?

[Devilman88]

Once again, this displays simply clinging to the idea of god and not be able to let go. Have you ever thought why would god use such a process when he could just poof it into existence? Accept your fate, there's no fairytale life for the goody goodies, and no endless torment for the baddies.

I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but there is a Heaven and Hell.

No shadowofthewave started it.

[Devilman88]

Coburn, JS is a better Christian than you will ever be.

I honestly don't know if I am a Christian or not.  I trying to learn more about the Bible and the Christian faith tho as I do believe it was the foundation of this country. 

He is the kind of christian tho who picks and chooses his favorite dishes from the table and leaves what he doesn't like.  That's the cowards way.  In for a penny in for a pound  you know?  I think the conservative Christians on this forum are the real ones because they believe the WHOLE thing not just the parts they don't like.

If you are not a christian then you really don't know true Christianity. Jesus teaches about love and understanding. Love everyone no matter what. Tell them the truth and leave it at that. No once did he ever try to push his views on anyone. He let the truth come to them. All you're doing is making Christianity and yourself look like bigots.