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« on: October 03, 2021, 04:47:34 PM »

No (...abnormal?? Seriously, Atlas?)
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 05:13:43 PM »

No (...abnormal?? Seriously, Atlas?)

It's not just an abnormal opinion on Atlas. Most people don't understand the no-nuance-allowed attitude that Americans have to this and other slurs. I bet that if you ask a representative sample of the United States if it's okay to say the n-word in a non-insulting context like quoting a song, the vast majority will tell you it's not immoral. The idea that it is immoral to utter a word regardless of context is actually pretty hilarious and even a bit disturbing when you think about it.

Nuance is lost on people, I agree. While in general the idea that a word can always be offensive no matter what seems ridiculous, in the particular case of the "n-word" the historical context is so horrendous that it's never acceptable for a white person to use it, with the exception of telling a child who's never heard it what it means and why it can't ever be said.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 09:57:03 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2021, 12:14:59 AM by 7,052,770 »

No (...abnormal?? Seriously, Atlas?)

It's not just an abnormal opinion on Atlas. Most people don't understand the no-nuance-allowed attitude that Americans have to this and other slurs. I bet that if you ask a representative sample of the United States if it's okay to say the n-word in a non-insulting context like quoting a song, the vast majority will tell you it's not immoral. The idea that it is immoral to utter a word regardless of context is actually pretty hilarious and even a bit disturbing when you think about it.

Nuance is lost on people, I agree. While in general the idea that a word can always be offensive no matter what seems ridiculous, in the particular case of the "n-word" the historical context is so horrendous that it's never acceptable for a white person to use it, with the exception of telling a child who's never heard it what it means and why it can't ever be said.

People don't like to be treated like children and that's what you're doing when you give people a list of words they're never allowed to say even in a reasonable context. That's why I also brought up the "F slur" and now there's the R word, the C word, the T word, and probably a few others. It's getting to the point where you can't even always tell what word they're trying to reference, and it's just awkward. Assigning letters to bad words is what children do, and forcing adults to act like children is not healthy for society.

The "N-word" isn't the same as retarded or even c*nt (the Atlas software censored that, not me), and I think you know that.

Ironically, it was South Park who said it best, clearly far from a liberal/SJW show -- white people are just inherently incapable of ever understanding what it's like for a black person to hear the "N-word" and should just accept that fact and move on.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 10:14:06 PM »

No (...abnormal?? Seriously, Atlas?)

It's not just an abnormal opinion on Atlas. Most people don't understand the no-nuance-allowed attitude that Americans have to this and other slurs. I bet that if you ask a representative sample of the United States if it's okay to say the n-word in a non-insulting context like quoting a song, the vast majority will tell you it's not immoral. The idea that it is immoral to utter a word regardless of context is actually pretty hilarious and even a bit disturbing when you think about it.

Nuance is lost on people, I agree. While in general the idea that a word can always be offensive no matter what seems ridiculous, in the particular case of the "n-word" the historical context is so horrendous that it's never acceptable for a white person to use it, with the exception of telling a child who's never heard it what it means and why it can't ever be said.

People don't like to be treated like children and that's what you're doing when you give people a list of words they're never allowed to say even in a reasonable context. That's why I also brought up the "F slur" and now there's the R word, the C word, the T word, and probably a few others. It's getting to the point where you can't even always tell what word they're trying to reference, and it's just awkward. Assigning letters to bad words is what children do, and forcing adults to act like children is not healthy for society.

The "N-word" isn't the same as retarded or even c*nt (the Atlas software censored that, not me), and I think you know that.

Ironically, it was South Park who said it best, clearly far from a liberal/SJW show -- white people are just inherently incapable of ever understanding what it's like for a black person to be called the "N-word" and should just accept that fact and move on.

Who said anything about calling anyone the N-word?

That was an miswording on my part. I'm referring to using the word at all, as was the South Park classic:

Stan: "Token, I get it now. I don't get it. I've been trying to say that I understand how you feel, but, I'll never understand. I'll never really get how it feels for a black person to have somebody use the N word. I don't get it."
Token: "Now you get it, Stan."
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