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Harry
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« on: January 20, 2019, 05:12:21 PM »

Is having a sexual predator as president ok with you Mr. Devout Christian?

That's an accusation that is unproven.  And you know it.

We know for certain that Trump intentionally walked in on naked beauty pageant contestants, including some underage. He bragged about doing it on Howard Stern's show, and there have been dozens of said women to corroborate it.

Are you going to respond with 10 paragraphs now about how that's not really sexual predator behavior since Muslims and Democrats do way worse things and Trump is ending abortion and Tlaib is an anti-semite and Michael Brown robbed a store and gay marriages performed in Christian churches are an affront to God and how you used to be a super liberal Democratic activist and how feminists hate your sons, etc?
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 06:49:45 PM »

Is having a sexual predator as president ok with you Mr. Devout Christian?

That's an accusation that is unproven.  And you know it.

We know for certain that Trump intentionally walked in on naked beauty pageant contestants, including some underage. He bragged about doing it on Howard Stern's show, and there have been dozens of said women to corroborate it.

Are you going to respond with 10 paragraphs now about how that's not really sexual predator behavior since Muslims and Democrats do way worse things and Trump is ending abortion and Tlaib is an anti-semite and Michael Brown robbed a store and gay marriages performed in Christian churches are an affront to God and how you used to be a super liberal Democratic activist and how feminists hate your sons, etc?

It's an unproven allegation. When he's charged and when he pleads to a crime, I'll agree with you.

Respond to the topic.  Is this behavior OK?  If you won't, you're no better than Sarah Palin.

So Trump says he did it, and the people who he did it to say he did it, but you are going to overrule all of the people who were there, including the guy who admits he did it, and call it "unproven?" That's pathetic. I know he's not going to be charged, so that's a pointless attempt at misdirection -- people don't have to be convicted by a court in order for you or me or anyone else to look at the evidence and decide that they are guilty. Especially when 100% of people involved are in agreement of what happened.

As to your second line, what topic? The dumbass professor? Of course that's not OK. Did you really think I might say otherwise? People have deservedly lost jobs for much worse. I don't buy the larger narrative that the Right is trying to draw about inherent anti-white bias in academia or whatever, but of course I condemn him.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 07:01:03 PM »

1. It's not whataboutism when you posted that it's "unproven" that Trump is a sexual predator and I respond with an event that suggests otherwise. It would be whataboutism if this were a thread about Clinton or Franken or whoever, but labeling this particular instance whatboutism shows that you either are posting in bad faith or have a shocking lack of understanding of what the term means.

2. Are you really saying that you don't believe in anyone's guilt until they are convicted of a crime, regardless of evidence or literal confessions? Didn't think so. After all, if you applied that standard to Michael Brown and Bill Clinton, what you even ramble about anymore?
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 07:18:27 PM »

1. It's not whataboutism when you posted that it's "unproven" that Trump is a sexual predator and I respond with an event that suggests otherwise. It would be whataboutism if this were a thread about Clinton or Franken or whoever, but labeling this particular instance whatboutism shows that you either are posting in bad faith or have a shocking lack of understanding of what the term means.

2. Are you really saying that you don't believe in anyone's guilt until they are convicted of a crime, regardless of evidence or literal confessions? Didn't think so. After all, if you applied that standard to Michael Brown and Bill Clinton, what you even ramble about anymore?

Nothing's been proven on Bill Clinton, beyond what he's admitted to.  My objection there is the OK-ness with throwing Juanita Broaddrick under the bus while insisting anyone accusing Trump (or some other Republican) be treated as guilty.

And, no, I'm not going to refer to anyone as a Sexual Offender or Sexual Predator until they are convicted of a crime and adjudicated as such.  That's basic fairness.  I'll note accusations, but I will not label someone with a label that has real legal meaning. 

Trump has never been charged with a crime in his life, yet people call him a criminal.  He's under investigation, and there is factual information out there that would be enough for a reasonable person to say, "No, I won't vote for Trump."  But if Trump ought not be above the law, he ought not be below it, either.  Ditto Bill and Hillary Clinton.  (I have never been part of the "Lock Her Up!" crowd, and I have disapproved of that explicitly on Atlas.)

Had Bill Clinton ever admitted to raping Broaddrick, whether before, during, or after his presidency, not a single red avatar here would say he didn't do it or that it was "unproven." That's the key difference here - Trump's supporters here cling to some kind of "well technically he hasn't been convicted of anything" even though Trump himself said that he creeped on women and girls while they were changing.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 07:21:17 PM »


This much is true. There is a serious double standard that seems to exist in these kinds of cases.

Yes, the double standard is from Republicans, who decide whether they believe accusers not by a careful examination of the facts like Democrats do, but whether the accused is a Republican or a Democrat.

If Franken, Conyers, or that Nevada congressman whose name escapes me were Republicans, they would still be in Congress and would be widely supported by Republicans here and nationwide.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 11:01:29 PM »

If this were some evil white male talking about killing black people or Muslims there wouldn't be all this deflection and people saying he wasn't really a threat so it is no big deal.

Trump is bad, the alt right is bad, this guy is bad. I can have all those opinions at the same time.

Virtually all liberals will agree will all 3 of those statements
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2019, 08:45:22 PM »

Did this TA even vote for Hillary? I mean, probably not, right?

Kinda kills the narrative about those Democrats doesn't it?
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