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Question: What happens to Andrew Cuomo?
#1
He resigns.
 
#2
He is impeached and removed.
 
#3
He finishes his term but doesn't run for another one.
 
#4
He finishes his term and runs again but loses the primary.
 
#5
He finishes his term, runs again, wins the primary but loses the general election.
 
#6
He is re-elected.
 
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« on: March 08, 2021, 01:45:17 PM »



So whatever happened with this?

Can I just say how satisfying this is to see Democrats stand up for what they believe in and not making a double standard for Cuomo's misconduct just because he's one of their own? It feels so good to put hacks like Del Taco  and fuzzyin their place who whined and complained as a way to justify their own cheerleading a littoral serial rapist.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2021, 08:45:27 PM »


Big egos don't go down easily.

At this point with so many ladies coming forward against him, he's toast.

He is trying Against All Odds to pull the Justin Fairfax route of holding out until things go away from the headlines. Big flipping difference given one at user film Fairfax aggressively denied was telling the truth, vs 7 and Counting.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2021, 04:18:30 PM »

So can someone recap exactly what the status of everything here is? As far as I can tell Cuomo is hunkering down in his bunker refusing to resign, the state senate seems to have the rank-and-file and Leadership on board and numbers necessary to impeach Cuomo, the numbers are probably there in the house but the speaker is using his power to drag out some weak tea investigation and avoid it being anything close to transparent.

 have I missed anything? What kind of time frame are we talking about for an investigation/ hearings, or is that still TBD?
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2021, 07:16:27 PM »

A couple things come to mind: one is that, technically, what Andrew Johnson did was not a crime and his impeachment was blatantly political; the Republicans just wanted to get him out fast, and by a single vote, their effort to remove him failed.

I'm not interested in teasing out what exactly is a "crime" and what isn't, but Andrew Johnson's actions were plainly illegal, as they violated the Tenure of Office Act. That the Supreme Court opined in the 1920s that the law (long since repealed) may have been unconstitutional is immaterial here.

Not to be pedantic, but the Court stated that the Tenure of Office Act literally was unconstitutional, not just that it "may have been," stating "that the Tenure of Office Act of 1867, insofar as it attempted to prevent the President from removing executive officers who had been appointed by him by and with the advice and consent of Senate, was invalid." Of course, said portion of that opinion is still irrelevant anyway given that the Court's statement on the matter was in dicta, but still.

In any event, the President - upon his inauguration &/or ascension to office - swears that he'll "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." If he has sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution above all other laws &, according to his very best judgement, there's a law on the books which can't be reconciled with the Constitution & which plainly violates it, even with the most generous reading of both the Constitution & the law itself, then he must stop enforcing or defending that law immediately & seek to have it overturned in order to preserve & uphold the Constitution.

Is this not what Johnson did, thus upholding his duty - in this particular instance - to be a fair defender of the Constitution? Isn't it evident that Johnson was literally impeached because Congress passed a law to inevitably justify impeaching him?

Yes, of course, we all know that what Johnson was really impeached for was his having been a cantankerous, rambling, & drunken fool who did nothing as Black freedmen & Northern teachers were being slaughtered wholesale across the unreconstructed South, often by local law enforcement. Such being the case, perhaps the House should've simply opted to impeach him for malfeasance, which - y'know - is what impeachment literally exists to remedy, rather than instead pass a very shady law that was widely agreed to be considered unconstitutional so as to lay an impeachment trap for Johnson.

Judicial review has been a Hallmark of constitutional structure since Marbury versus Madison. Johnson did not have it within his purview as president to unilaterally declare the law unconstitutional. If he wanted to order the Attorney General or solicitor general to file a petition for cert in the US Supreme Court, that be another thing entirely. The fact that he was found to be correct over half a century later is moot.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2021, 12:27:16 PM »


The sharks are officially circling.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2021, 07:08:14 AM »

I'm still waiting for him to withdraw his resignation, because I don't trust him.
Bookmarking. Will be bringing up again once he's gone and you are OWNED.

I don't trust him either. Feel free to bookmark and own me. I think it's like 90-10 he goes through with it.

This, except I think it's more like 99 - 1.
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