PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

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It's real simple Pennsylvania Democrats. Shapiro for governor, fetterman for Senate, lamb for attorney general. Clear the freaking primary field if you want any chance in November because it's a Biden midterm.

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I’m still praying with every fiber of my being for a Cartwright Senate run.  I am highly biased because I’m from NEPA, but c’mon, TWO Senators and a President from #BlueCollar #CoalMining #Populist Scranton?  NUT

(Also, Cartwright is just a really decent human being, from every interaction I’ve had with him and his team)

Nah. I have no problem with a senator Cartwright, but I'd prefer a senator fetterman no to Lemoore. Besides, Cartwright running would make his congressional seat likely to flip.

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It's real simple Pennsylvania Democrats. Shapiro for governor, fetterman for Senate, lamb for attorney general. Clear the freaking primary field if you want any chance in November because it's a Biden midterm.

Shapiro for Governor is correct, but Fetterman should run for re-election as LG (or Doyle’s seat if he retires). He’s the guy you run when you expect a Democratic wave year like 2018.  

Cartwright should be our nominee for Senate and if not him, then even Lamb is probably a safer choice than Fetterman this cycle for several reasons (I don’t think we should run Lamb either b/c I suspect he might try some Manchin/Sinema BS re: opposing nuking the filibuster):

1) PA is not a Berniecrat-friendly state as far as statewide races go; 2) Fetterman has never won a GE for anything in his own right higher than Mayor of Braddock, PA so he’s pretty untested compared to our other options; 3) There is no evidence that Fetterman has any special appeal in a key region (in fact, he has no real track record of electoral success beyond winning a clown car LG primary largely b/c the geographical base breakdown of an incredibly fractured field was exclusively to his advantage); 4) There is reason to think Lamb and especially Cartwright would over-perform generic D in key regions based on their past election results

Cartwright is an over-performer in a tough region who has proven crossover appeal despite not being a ConservaDem.  He’s got some progressive views, but also hasn’t branded himself as a Berniecrat (or an establishmentarian).  I just don’t see how, logically speaking, we’d be better off running an untested candidate who has never won a competitive GE for Congress or statewide office in a state that in a Democratic President’s midterm just b/c Fetterman has gotten a lot of hype from the #RoseTwitter crowd.  

As for the others, AG would probably be a step down for Lamb unless he’s given an unwinnable district.  Houlihan is basically generic D imo, speaking of potential candidates.  

TL;DR: At a bare minimum, Fetterman should face a serious primary opponent if only to get a better sense of whether the hype is actually warranted before it’s too late to go with someone else.  We have a strong bench; why roll the dice on an untested candidate when we could run a proven over-performer who still has at least some very progressive positions on issues like healthcare (I.e. Matt Cartwright).

I really don't see how running for State Attorney General is anything but a clear promotion, let alone a step down, from a congressional seat. Especially given the seat in question is one lamb will continuously have to fight to defend. Not that Pennsylvania is Comfortably Democratic, but it's not as marginal overall as his seat.

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Ok what prevents the republican from sticking that messaging to him, run ads about his wealthy background and about his left-wing policies, how will he respond to the ads calling him a phony ?

He didn’t have a “wealthy” background. He grew up middle class and has always been middle class. He can respond by saying it was easier for a kid like him to get into Harvard back in the 80s because he didn’t have to worry about going into extreme debt or choosing between college and supporting his family because college has become prohibitively expensive for kids without actually rich parents. He can even talk about the white privilege afforded to kids who grow up middle class who can go to good schools but not minority students because of systemic racism. There, I just knocked out 2 of his main campaign talking points in response to one (dumb) attack ad.

And frankly, the fact he has a degree in heart from Harvard makes it easier to sell to upper-middle-class Philly Suburban types that he's not just some tattooed oik who would embarrass the state in the Senate.

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1358860650924150790

Mega endorsed

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Former Arlen Specter aide Craig Snyder will announce today.

Next year’s race to represent Pennsylvania in the U.S. Senate will help shape the direction of the Republican Party. And Craig Snyder thinks there’s still time to take a sharp turn away from former President Donald Trump.

Snyder, a 60-year-old Republican from Philadelphia and onetime top aide to the late, moderate Sen. Arlen Specter, will announce his candidacy on Wednesday in a race that will help determine control of the Senate.

He’s aiming squarely at the political middle, allying himself with prominent anti-Trump Republicans, and calling for a party reckoning. His slogan: “Not Trumpism. Not Socialism. Common Sense.”

“In the absence of the kind of movement that I’m trying to mobilize, Pennsylvanians are going to end up next November with an unacceptable choice between a MAGA extremist and a woke progressive extremist,” Snyder, a business consultant and lobbyist, said in an interview Monday ahead of his formal announcement.

I don't think positioning oneself as a member of the Romney/Cheney/Kinzinger wing of the party is the way going forward, and besides, didn't Specter get run out of the Republican Party anyways?

Sounds like a vanity run where he will get stomped. I'd be surprised if he hit double digits unless he's literally only the second candidate on the ballot.

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Sean Parnell's military thriller, Man of War features graphic violence against women.

Sean Parnell’s military thriller “Man of War” contains graphic scenes of violence against female characters, raising additional questions about his attitude toward women in the wake of court testimony that he physically and verbally abused his estranged wife.

Parnell, who has emerged as the frontrunner in the Pennsylvania GOP Senate primary, portrays multiple scenes of men assaulting women in the 2018 novel, the first of four in a fiction series written by the Army combat veteran.

 This guy aint right. Wonder how slow it will be for republicans to a strange hymn.. Creepy sex offender Politicians are not unique to republicans versus democrats, but at least we the vast majority of time or you've time work to give rid of our people discovered to be bastard's, comma George republicans continue to fiercely defend and even idolized theirs against all accusations and is accusations and evidence.

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"This won't change the fact that he is going to be the next Senator from Pennsylvania."

-SnowLabrador, probably soon.

Don’t you see? Obviously his wife is a paid political actor who went undercover marrying him to throw dirt in him!

there are lots of lies in a divorce procedures to try to have the most favorable decision possible.
So the accusation comes at a suspicious time. if it was true, it had to be said before.

 Based on the sh**t hes been "d as saying in TV as well as gratuitous sexual violence in the novels he wrote, this is hardly out of character. I mean, make excuses if you want, but there's a distinct pattern here that goes far beyond allegations in a divorce..

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Walker has allegations and will win the primary and GE.
Parnell will win the nomination and GE as well.
Mald and sperg liberals

Worst haiku ever.

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Is there any scenario where this race isn't Fetterman v Parnell?

 This sh**t may be hitting the fan too hard for Parnell to  Survive, even among Republican voters.

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Yep everyone (particularly in PA/surrounding area) hate New Jersey.

I'm going to point out that this is a mentality that surely doesn't go any further west than Harrisburg if that. Having grown up in Pittsburgh we never gave a second thought about Jersey except a place we might get away to With Buddies for the summer to go party and meet girls. Adults didn't care about Jersey one way or the other either.