Politico: Florida dems unload on sanders in Venezuela controversy, Shalala angry

[Badger]

It's crazy how big a deal they made of Bernie being terrible for Florida and yet they bombed so hard with "electable" Biden instead. Good riddance to Shalala.

As someone who loves Bernie and back in January wanted him to win I don’t know how you can look at what happened across the board and how Dems got killed in areas on “muh socialism” with Biden of all people on the top ballot and not conclude Bernie would of lost and dragged the party down even more

You don't lose during a pandemic because of "muh socialism", you lose for other reasons.

Trump ran on “muh socialism”, all the polling data showed Biden had weak Hispanic support in Florida because “muh socialism” attacks, democratic operations on the ground were saying they were getting hit hard over “muh socialism”, and the group that swung to Trump the hardest (Cubans) are notorious on their views of “muh socialism”. But right it was probably about the 94 crime bill 🙄

None of that had anything to do with Bernie.

Yes, it did. The rise of Bernie and AOC as prominent figures in the party made Biden and other Democrats more vulnerable to those attacks.

If neoliberals can't figure out how to win, that's their own damn fault.

"Neoliberals"

This coming from a guy who still pissed off at Obama 10 times as much as he is Republicans for not enough getting accomplished during the Obama Administration.

What a weak argument. Give it a rest, dude.

[Badger]

It's crazy how big a deal they made of Bernie being terrible for Florida and yet they bombed so hard with "electable" Biden instead. Good riddance to Shalala.

As someone who loves Bernie and back in January wanted him to win I don’t know how you can look at what happened across the board and how Dems got killed in areas on “muh socialism” with Biden of all people on the top ballot and not conclude Bernie would of lost and dragged the party down even more

You don't lose during a pandemic because of "muh socialism", you lose for other reasons.

Trump ran on “muh socialism”, all the polling data showed Biden had weak Hispanic support in Florida because “muh socialism” attacks, democratic operations on the ground were saying they were getting hit hard over “muh socialism”, and the group that swung to Trump the hardest (Cubans) are notorious on their views of “muh socialism”. But right it was probably about the 94 crime bill 🙄

None of that had anything to do with Bernie.

Yes, it did. The rise of Bernie and AOC as prominent figures in the party made Biden and other Democrats more vulnerable to those attacks.

If neoliberals can't figure out how to win, that's their own damn fault.

"Neoliberals"

This coming from a guy who still pissed off at Obama 10 times as much as he is Republicans for not enough getting accomplished during the Obama Administration.

What a weak argument. Give it a rest, dude.

Obama took us from bombing 4 countries to 7, pushed hard for TPP, tried to get the grand bargain passed, and lost 63 House seats in 2010 after waging war against progressives. Obama did everything he could to stop Bernie. Obama has made it clear that he fights the left harder than he fights Republicans. Trump is President only because of him.

Wow, there's so much raw stupidity in that post I'm not even going to begin.