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« on: February 15, 2019, 08:30:37 AM »

Kaepernick kneeling has nothing to do with veterans or the armed forces. That was one of the dumbest misdirections that the right invented, all so they could talk about everything and anything except police brutality.

Military families have decided that it, indeed, does.  You people here, who have probably never stood a post or heard a shot in anger, aren't going to be the ones deciding this.

I am not a veteran, but my younger adult son is, having served a tour of duty in Afghanistan.  I can assure you that he, and many military families, view Kapernick as disrespecting them.  That's more his issue than mine, but I don't see his viewpoint as wrong.  And for you to say, "That has nothing to do with veterans . . ." is to dismiss THEIR viewpoints totally.

Kapernick's kneeling hardened the hearts of many people who may well have come to agree with him on the social issues he cares about.  I agree that Kapernick's issues have merit.  I don't agree that Kapernick is some kind of patriot; his motivation is more identity politics than real justice.  I do care very much about criminal justice reform, but I would prefer to discuss the issue with serious people who might be able to make a coherent argument and not people who have struck me as flat-out unpatriotic and anti-American.  I can agree with a decent amount of the issues Kapernick raises, but I'm not going to celebrate his mindset, and that comes with his presentation.

I'll see your anecdotal evidence and counter with my own that many military personnel and cops support Kaepernick's expression of First Amendment rights.

And WTF is " identity politics" versus " real Justice"?!? Or is that just another way for you to stay perennially triggered by the left in order for you to justify your even tepid support for Trump?
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2019, 08:33:58 AM »

I'm a veteran and I am not the least bit offended by kneeling football players. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's funny, but most of the people that are pissed off on your unwanted behalf probably aren't veterans, or even know a veteran.

You have no clue if you believe that.

Assert what you just asserted at your local VFW or American Legion and see the response.

Frankly put, go to your local VFW or American Legion outside of a black or Latino neighborhood and ask what they think about the police shootings of blacks, and you're going to get some..."interesting" opinions like you would find it any bar full of middle-aged to elderly white guys. Hard pass.
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2019, 11:30:29 AM »

Kaepernick kneeling has nothing to do with veterans or the armed forces. That was one of the dumbest misdirections that the right invented, all so they could talk about everything and anything except police brutality.

Military families have decided that it, indeed, does.

If Eskimos decide that it's anti-Eskimo, does that make it so?

Different military families have decided that Republicans are opportunistically exploiting them as a weapon to hurt Kaepernick and BLM and win votes, and they're pretty sick of it. Do you listen to them?

It's not even that black and white, so to speak. It's like saying Northshore Eskimos decide something is Auntie Eskimo when West slope Eskimos say it's not anti Eskimo
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