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Question: Will he recover?
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Yes, just like always
 
#2
Nope. Game over.
 
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Total Voters: 83

Author Topic: Will Trump recover from Charlottesville?  (Read 3073 times)
Badger
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« on: August 16, 2017, 12:15:27 AM »

Of course he will.  His supporters likely couldn't care less if the media especially thinks his first statement was inadequate.

My first gut reaction (as I was busy working and didn't see much news) was the statement condemn "hate on all sides, let's come together, unite, ect". I thought, "Good."

The next day I see Huff Post criticized first statement. I wasn't sure why. I thought he said something extra I missed. I then realized it was just libs being libs.

Have you both missed the vast number of Republicans who have broke with him on this subject? Your thumb sucking response about "the Liberals the Liberals the Liberals the Liberals!" Is not an alternative opinion in this case, but rather two plus two equals five factually incorrect. You simply can't rely on it just being liberals angry.

Unless you're willing to concede that over 60% of the country is liberal. Wink
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 12:20:43 AM »
« Edited: August 16, 2017, 12:22:59 AM by Badger »

Uh, you need a third option: "he'll briefly stabilize, but I'm willing to bet he'll never ever be in positive territory every again."

Closer to my answer. He could always bounce back to 40% by the end of the month, but I think this solidified his 'Strong Disapproval' numbers above 50%

This. Trump will always have his hardcore cultists who support anything and everything he does as long as it makes "the liberals" ( like Justin Amash, Barbara Comstock, Pat tiberi, John Kasich what's her name Ros-Illthean, Mitt Romney-- you know, the Liberals) all pissed off. And yes, the 24-hour news cycle has turned the American attention span into roughly the same as goldfish when it comes to political events.

But I think even for Trump this is different. He has so tremendously screwed the pooch this time he literally defended a crowd of thousands of Neo-Nazi protesters. He literally defended a March of Neo Nazi sympathizers!

He's crossed the line in a way the public just can't ignore or forgive. Yes, we are so used to Trump being a complete ass and racist bastard that we will not call for his immediate impeachment as we would any other president no matter how much he deserves it. But this is his Katrina. Or his Iraq War. The public will never fundamentally forgive him for it. Nor should they.

And news flash. It's nowhere near just "the liberals" anymore.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 12:27:02 AM »

     The people who got most worked up over his response weren't ever going to support him anyway. This doesn't move the dial long-term.

Wrong. This is so so far over the line that many non liberals who would at least consider supporting him, or did in 2016, just can't forgive him for this.

Again, it ain't just the Liberals folks. Not anymore
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 02:15:30 AM »

Unfortunately, I think Reaganfan is much more in line with the average GOP voter than Badger is. A lot of GOP voters will be going "but he did criticize the white supremacists", "Trump is no racist", "both sides should be critizised", "why are the liberals so enraged about choice of words and political correctness", etc.

Sadly true, including probably most Republican voters being more in line with naso than me, at least for the moment. But "most Republicans" isn't enough for him to survive.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 02:22:51 AM »


But I think even for Trump this is different. He has so tremendously screwed the pooch this time he literally defended a crowd of thousands of Neo-Nazi protesters. He literally defended a March of Neo Nazi sympathizers!


He said he condemned it. What else do you want?

No he didn't genius. He first put the counter-protesters who opposed white supremacy in anti-Semitism on the same level as the white supremacists and anti-semites because a handful of each crowd resorted to Illegal violence, ignoring the fact that one in the ladder crowd resorted to full-blown homicide it was still just as bad on both sides.

Today he literally jumped the shark. Did you watch that video? Did you? He defended and dear God Almighty even praised the white supremacists marching who were chanting Jews will not take us over as including very fine people. He wrote it off as people marching against a removal of a statue of Robert E Lee. Watching two minutes of that Neo-Nazi parade showed that was an event that brought together a white nationalist parade.

In the f****** president of the United States of America defended them. And dozens of Republicans said no. Not liberals as you are fond of whining about. Republicans! Conservatives! Check Mitt Romney's tweet just as one of many examples.

I want him to stop being president because he is a grotesque human being and a miserable excuse for a president. And no matter how much you cry about the Liberals, today proved his failures have nothing to do with pissed off liberals.

Now given that you are one step away from joining those Neo-Nazi Marchers in Charlottesville, I fully anticipate you will disagree.

That, and you're dumb
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