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« on: March 23, 2011, 03:46:39 PM »

North Carolina is here to stay as a swing state. That isn't good news for the Republicans as North Carolina is an electorally rich state that went from "Safe R" to swing state in just one election.

NC had been fools gold for Democrats since the late 80's. Its been assumed the combination of a growing urban population around Charlotte and (especially) the Research Triangle combined with a sizable African-American population would make this a model of "The New South" where even national candidates could be competitive. It took until 2008 for that (barely) to be proven doable.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2011, 12:29:35 PM »

North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida are definitely trending Democratic at a snails pace.  But it's offset by the rest of the South's rapid trend rightward.

I would agree with Georgia.  Florida on the other hand doesn't seem to be moving much at all, and NC (despite the Dem losses last year) does seem to be moving Dem at a decent pace.

If anything Florida has seemed to be moving right. At least, that has been my impression. North Carolina seems to have made something of a jump to Obama.

Although I think Democrats might do well to remember that Obama is a bit unusual in that he fires up both black voters and college kid-type voters at the same time. That might be hard to repeat in the future and I suspect that might be important in a state like NC.

Demographics seems to help Dems in Florida, though. IIRC from an NPR blurb the other day on Florida's continuing population boom, much of it comes from increased black and hispanic immigration to the state. And most of these newer hispanics are not from Cuba, but rather are from more Democratic friendly ethnic groups like Salvadorans and Mexicans.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2011, 03:50:23 PM »

look at a place like Orange County, Florida. From the end of World War II to the turn of the century, it was a hardcore GOP district. It went from 28.51% Mondale in 1984 to 31.27% Dukakis in 1988 to 34.89% Clinton in 1992 to 45.66% Clinton in 1996 to 50.06% Gore in 2000. Kerry did slightly worse at 49.83% in 2004 but Obama won 59% of the vote in 2008, which was the highest a democrat has gotten there since Roosevelt's 61% in 1940. The fact that it is a fast growing county helps the democrats even more.

The fastest growing county in a fast growing state, I believe.
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