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Author Topic: "The US was wrong to invade Iraq, therefore it's OK for Russia to invade Ukraine."  (Read 1605 times)
Antonio the Sixth
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« on: December 22, 2022, 06:33:58 PM »

Speaking of the Iraq War this idea that America is solely responsible is dumb. Between Bush and Blair it is quite clear who would be more likely to actually do something like that.
Could Blair had single-handedly caused a war with Iraq, though? He was an Atlanticist. Atlanticist means you don't start a war with US  as buddy-buddy partner, no? It isn't exactly the 1950s.

No, I'm saying Blair gets a lot less flak than he should.

He got kicked out by his own party and is now widely seen as an embarrassment in the UK. Meanwhile the GOP stood by Dubya to the end and now even Democrats are starting to rehabilitate him.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2022, 09:58:43 AM »


Not really true tbh - he left power at pretty much the time and manner of his own choosing, and with still quite a bit of goodwill from Labour people despite the Iraq folly.

Its his behaviour *since* departing office that has really made him persona non grata with so many.

I'm pretty sure I read before that he had been planning to stay on longer and that Gordon Brown was able to knife him at least impact due to the lingering bad blood from the Iraq war.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2022, 06:55:23 AM »

Speaking of the Iraq War this idea that America is solely responsible is dumb. Between Bush and Blair it is quite clear who would be more likely to actually do something like that.

Uhhh…Bush? Yeah it’s Bush

TFM's bizarre obsession with hating everything European is leading him to build up a whole alternate reality where Europeans are responsible for everything bad ever done in the world. It's especially silly in this case since Brits are barely European anyway.
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