When did German failure become virtually certain in WW2?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Probably when it invaded the USSR. I'm not gonna do the meme and say it's impossible to invade Russia, but trying to invade Russia while pursuing a grinding war with a US-armed Britain (and the increasing likelihood that the US was going to intervene eventually, was always going to be a recipe for disaster. Hitler's best bet was always going to be to wait out the UK until they broke and negotiated a separate peace. Then if he really wanted to stick it to Stalin he should probably have waited at least a few years to consolidate his hold over continental Europe and rebuild his strength. Of course even then it would have been a tall order, but at least he wouldn't have forced himself into the situation that even the Kaiserreich was desperately trying to avoid in 1914.

Thank goodness for evil's self-defeating nature.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Probably when it invaded the USSR. I'm not gonna do the meme and say it's impossible to invade Russia, but trying to invade Russia while pursuing a grinding war with a US-armed Britain (and the increasing likelihood that the US was going to intervene eventually, was always going to be a recipe for disaster. Hitler's best bet was always going to be to wait out the UK until they broke and negotiated a separate peace. Then if he really wanted to stick it to Stalin he should probably have waited at least a few years to consolidate his hold over continental Europe and rebuild his strength. Of course even then it would have been a tall order, but at least he wouldn't have forced himself into the situation that even the Kaiserreich was desperately trying to avoid in 1914.

Thank goodness for evil's self-defeating nature.

I mean invading the USSR though was the entire goal of the war to begin with , not defeating the UK . So I don’t get the what ifs behind what if the Nazis didn’t invade the USSR because in that case they would not be Nazis to begin with .

good thing I said this then